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June 4, 2007 at 8:42 pm #35615AnonymousInactive
day after day. i keep pushing on but it’s miserable. it’s so hard. Joe is now losing weight and nothing is working. he’s going in for an abdominal sonogram and upper GI tomorrow. he’s also got a respiratory cold and is constantly coughing and puking and full of snot. we saw the ped this morning and his lungs are still clear so at least there’s no pneumonia. this afternoon, Isaak refused to nap, he dumped his milk all over his bed, it took me 2 hours of resetting him to get him to go to sleep. when he did he slept for 45 minutes before waking up screaming because he had puked everywhere. of course, i had just gotten Joe calm but i had to set him down to bathe Isaak. Isaak screamed for the next 30 minutes before i could get him to calm down and Joe’s been screaming ever since i had to set him down to help Isaak. that was 2 hours ago. his voice is so hoarse and scratchy and every once in awhile he hacks up a big wad of gunk. i have no one to help me out. dh works and i’ve got no friends or family here. there is no LLL or mommy groups or anything. dh is all i’ve got for support and most of the time, he can’t be there. i spend more time crying and feeling like a crappy mom… it’s sounds so stupid but i hate watching my children hurt. i hate how there’s nothing i can do. i hate how all of Joe’s crying is taking away time from my 2yo and causing him to start acting up. all the medical bills are burrying us. we’ve got insurance but there’s still co-pays. between all Joe’s meds and doctors visits we easily spend $200+ a month. add in the $200 a month for Isaak’s daycare (usually he goes so that i can take care of Joe) and we’re barely making it. add in that each trip to the GI is 100 miles each way and with gas prices the way they are you can only imagine… i’m just so tired of all of this. to top it off, it’s Isaak’s birthday next week and i have no idea how we will celebrate with Joe being as sick as he is. we’ve been fighting this for 3.5 months now and it just seems like there’s no end in sight. Joe doesn’t even weigh 10lbs yet and i’m so sick of everyone saying it’s because he’s bf. i am an avid lactivist and truly believe it’s the best thing for him. there’s plenty of milk getting to him, he has plenty of wet and dirty diapers so i know it’s going through him. believe me, i have to wash all the dirty diapers… it’s all just so frustrating. and now i must attempt AGAIN, to get Isaak to bed. i swear it just never ends…
June 4, 2007 at 8:51 pm #35618AnonymousInactive(((hugs))) mama. i know how hard it can get. i had a screaming baby 24/7 before the proper meds and medical formula. i was all alone. it cost me my relationship with my sons father. things just fell apart. we are currently seperated but trying to work on things. i know how stressful it can be with a refluxer. you have two though, and im sure you are doing a great job. dont beat yourself up…things WILL get better.
as for the prilosec, are you getting it compounded properly and is his does ok? it looks on the low side. im guessing youve seen marci-kids.com? the proper dose and meds really makes a huge difference for most of the babies here. it literally made my son a different baby, a much happier baby.
why exactly are they doing the sonogram and the upper gi?
June 4, 2007 at 8:58 pm #35620AnonymousInactiveAnne,
I’m so sorry to hear that you are going through all of this, and boy oh boy, do I remember those days when you feel like you can barely keep your head above water. Breastfeeding and having an active toddler only add to the the stress, in my opinion, as does eating a limited diet. I’ve been there, and I’m so sorry that you are there now too.
I too live away from family, and while friends have been “friendly,” there hasn’t been much understanding of the real situation…. I know what you mean about people blaming the breastfeeding too. Very frustrating.
Anyway, please let me encourage you to HANG IN THERE. It does get better. You will sleep again; your babies will heal and be happy again. They know how much you love them.
You are a strong woman, stronger in more ways than you will ever admit to yourself. You can do this!
That being said, I would look into getting Joe’s ppi dose increased. Is he really only getting 2.4 mgs. a day???? Maybe I’m reading that incorrectly. But, if he is still having such a hard time, you may want to look into getting it bumped up. What form are you using?
Also, are you involved in a church? I know that our church has been a true lifesaver for me, and people that I don’t even know have reached out to help in many ways.
Oh- and my daughter’s 3rd birthday was 2 months after Ben was born, and I was just dreading it, having no plans and no idea what to do either. We ended up going to Chuckie Cheese. She had a ball, and I guess with all the background noise, Ben just checked out and slept through the whole thing! I had visions of him screaming the whole time, but I figured that at that loud place, it wouldn’t matter.
June 4, 2007 at 9:10 pm #35623AnonymousInactiveyes, he’s only on 2.4ml a day at the 2mg/ml solution. the GI ped is very sure that this dose will work for him. we faxed him all the MARCI-kids stuff and have yet to hear back on what he thinks. he’s been on the omeprazole for 2 weeks now and we’ve seen no improvement, if anything, he’s gotten worse. the tests are to make sure that there’s nothing internally wrong with him. if the GI still refuses to up the does we’re going to try and find a doc that will. anyone near St.Louis know of a good GI? oh, and previous to this he was on 30mg of prevacid a day and that did nothing. it was the solutabs though and Joe may have been reacting to the lactose in those as he is very dairy sensitive.
June 5, 2007 at 3:09 pm #35672AnonymousInactiveYour post brings me back and I remember how hard those days were. I too had to do it alone most of the time. I have no family around and I didn’t have many friends either when I was going through this reflux nightmare. My children are close in age and the second two were refluxers. Those were the hardest days of my life, but I can tell you that you will get through it and when it’s finally over you will look back and you will be very proud of yourself and you’ll be amazed at the inner strength that God gave mommies.
I agree that his PPI dose is awfully low and I hope that you can find a doc to increase it. Did you look here for a doc in your area?
https://www.infantreflux.org/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=660&am p;am p;PN=1
Do you have a family doctor? Many of us here have had better luck getting the higher PPI doses for our babies from family docs. They seem to know more about reflux and PPI’s because they see so many adults patients with GERD and they tend to be more sympathetic to the pain that GERD causes; probably because their adult patients can tell them how much it hurts.
Hang in there. I hope and pray things get better soon.
ndrose2007-6-5 15:10:39
June 5, 2007 at 8:51 pm #35718AnonymousInactiveWhy must you live so far away? I just want to reach through the computer and give you a hug. I am so sorry you are going through this. I was there too. The best advice I can give you is to work on the meds and then if that doesn’t work do testing. I have found that most of the time the testing is worthless. If the doc would just prescribe the correct dose to begin with you could save so much money. If I could do it all over again I would have not worried about the doc upping the meds. I would have done it myself. With Justice I had Dr. Phillips from Marci-kids call his doc. and she put him on a low dose of zegerid. I ended up doing all the increases myself, but wish I would have thought of that earlier and just did it. I know this doesn’t help now, but things will get better. Oh, babywearing helped and still helps me now.
June 6, 2007 at 2:19 am #35736AnonymousInactivewe had an upper GI and a abdominal sonogram this afternoon. and you guessed it, they were normal. meanwhile, Joe has lost his voice from all the screaming, is puking everywhere and the d*mn doc still won’t up his meds. i have tried baby wearing (i actually make and sell slings) but he won’t have anything to do with it. he arches and bucks so wildly that i just let him roll around on the floor on a comforter (we have hardwood floors) until he finally passes out. dh and i just sat and cried with him when we got home today. we just don’t know what to do. there were 6 week olds that we ran into in the hosp. today that were bigger than Joe
June 6, 2007 at 7:54 am #35740AnonymousInactiveOh, no I am so sorry. I can’t stand those tests. I actually have a friend whose husbands does the barium swallow test and he says they are worthless. They are not going to tell you if your baby has reflux. Sometimes your baby has it and it won’t show. When we went with my oldest son, the man doing the test simply asked if he was coughing. I of course, said yes and he said well there’s your answer, he has reflux. After the test Luke puked all over my husband and the floor. The man looked as though he had never seen anything like it before. With Justice I refused to do testing. You will find that gi docs can also be a waste of time. Not all so no tomatoe throwing. I really feel like the best bet a lot of times is a good family doc. You could always e-mail Dr. Phillips at Marci-kids and see if he would be willing to call your doc. You could always try to up the meds to marci-kids dosing and see if that helps. It’s kind of hard for a doc to dispute that. I didn’t really tell Justice’s doc what we did though. I just talked to Dr. Phillips about it all. If you do e-mail him you have to keep it short and to the point. He is very busy and you can tell that from his responses. Please keep us updated.
Oh, babywearing, do you have anything besides a sling? Justice hated the sling and I do mean hated it. He bucked all around too. I ended up getting a mei tai and he loves it. He gets so excited when I pull it out. If you make slings, I’m sure you could easily make a mei tai too. I’m sure you have tryed the upright postion in your sling, but if not maybe try that. Again though, Justice didn’t like the sling no matter what I tryed.
Justice’smom2007-6-6 7:56:58
June 6, 2007 at 9:35 am #35743AnonymousInactiveHi Anne,
I’m so sorry for all you’re going through with your little ones. It’s so hard, and even worse with no support! I also suggest asking your family doctor for the higher dose of PPI. That’s where we originally got Bryce’s higher dose. Good luck with everything! I sure hope you can get things under control soon and start enjoying a happy baby.June 6, 2007 at 10:07 am #35752AnonymousInactiveI got the higher PPI dose for my son from our family doctor. It’s worth a try!
June 6, 2007 at 10:31 am #35757AnonymousInactiveAnne,
I’m so sorry for what you’re going through. Your last post gave me goosebumps. I know how you feel. I just hate that your little one is hurting, and especially that he’s not growing – that should be a HUGE concern to your ped and your ped GI. I can’t believe the way these doctors minimize reflux the way they do. My ped told me Caden would just outgrow his in time and not to worry! How do you not worry about your own infant who is crying in pain every day and in your case not gaining properly?!?
Mine finally prescribed Prevacid 30mg (just like you), but it never helped my son either. I was so discouraged, but in time Caden did better on his own (thank goodness). However, he wasn’t losing weight. He always comfort nursed and gained appropriately. So, I didn’t have that concern, but I HATED that he was uncomfortable and felt that there was nothing I could do
I’m going to pray for you today. I know how hard this must be for you. Especially not having friends/family close by. I’m lucky that I do have family close by, but they all work full-time, so they couldn’t really help me much when Caden was a newborn, and I needed the most help. My mom actually took off work on several occasions to come help out. My husband also took off days to relieve me so I could rest a little bit. It didn’t take the worry away, but it did allow me to rest a little bit (when I could – sometimes I couldn’t rest for worrying about Caden). I think it would help you to just have someone you could talk to.
This board can be a lifesaver. Even though you’re not able to “talk” to these ladies, you can email and get responses back that can truly change your whole attitude for the day. There were many days that I came on here and posted something I was worried about and got TONS of responses – it was truly helpful and gave me the momentum to keep going each day, especially when I was in the middle of the 24/7 crying spree that we dealt with until Caden was about 3 months old. 4 months was the major turning point for him, and 6 months was the BEST! He is doing SO much better now at 7 months, and I am so thankful that he is finally outgrowing this reflux mess!
I am also very much pro-breastfeeding and have nursed all 3 of our biological sons. I almost gave up this time, because I kept thinking it just had to be related to the breastfeeding, but I am SO glad I stuck it out. Now, we’re going for the long haul. He’s 7 months old, and I want to make it the full year or longer if he wishes to. Our other two gave up nursing on their own around 1 year of age.
I am also pro-babywearing, and it has worked for Caden, but he fought it at first too. I just kept trying, and now he enjoys the carrier if he’s in the right mood. He also takes naps in it nicely when he won’t go down for a nap. He never liked the sling style carrier, but he loves the Mei-Tai. Have you tried that type of carrier? I’m sure you know about the different types since you make/sell them. But, I thought I’d mention it in just in case.
Anyway, just know that we’re all pulling for you here! I agree with the others to keep pressing your doctor for more solutions, increased meds, different types of meds, anything that will help. Since your baby isn’t gaining weight properly, they should consider it top priority to try different things to help him! Please keep us posted.
June 6, 2007 at 2:09 pm #35769AnonymousInactiveHi Anne,
my dd is born the same day as your little one! as for the PPI she is on the compounded prilosec as well–she is over 14 pounds and gets 4 ml 2x a day and the concentration of is 2mg/1mL–
convert his weight into kg (which I imagine you’ve already done) and see if he is getting anywhere near what they suggest
this is still below MARCI kids because they recommend 3X a day–
When we had to be in the hospital for a week with her, the GI spec on call told me that she will outgrow her meds and a sign would be the coughing (or more congestion) that someone has already mentioned on the board as a sign and to go ahead and increase the meds by .2–that was the end of April and she was doing 3 mL 2X a day so when I noticed it I increased it–because your little one will outgrow the meds faster than you going in to see the dr. even if is just for a weight check–
how much does your DS weigh?
June 6, 2007 at 5:52 pm #35798hellbenntKeymasterJune 7, 2007 at 12:04 pm #35880AnonymousInactiveHi there. I’m so sorry to read your post. I can understand your pain b/c it sounded a lot like what we were going through with Hailey in the early months. It was awful, and I cycled between thoughts of wanting to hop on a bus and assume a new identity, and trying to make sure that the hospital didn’t have a return policy! Really, it was terrible. Most days I just cried. I felt so alone. No one understood. Sometimes I even felt alone among other parents with refluxers, b/c at the time, I would have done almost anything to make Hailey happy.
Remeber that you are not alone! We are here for you, and we understand. I have been through the depths of feeding hell, lack of sleep, weight gain fears, horrific Sandifer’s, screaming beyond belief, and feelings of sheer desperation about how I was going to stop the madness, get the right help, and still come up standing on the other side. Please PM me if you need to talk to someone. It does get better, though I know that hanging in there can seem impossible at times.
How much does your son weigh? His dose may be on the low side for even conventional dosing. We actually found that until we followed the marci-kids rules about how to do the meds, things were awful.
HUGS.
s&h’s mum2007-6-7 12:5:32
June 10, 2007 at 10:54 am #36173AnonymousInactiveAnne,
I said a prayer for you today. It makes my heart ache for you and your babies but everyone is right, you can TOTALLY do this.Your babies know you are doing everything you possibly can for them and the storm will let up soon. It always does.
I hear your frustration with feeling alone. All my friends and familly live eight states away and my husband also works non-stop. I only have one refluxer but there are days when I have no idea if I’ll make it through and I’m LITERALLY hanging on minute by minute hoping for a break in it all or even just a chance that SOMETHING will go right that day. But(deep breath), you will triumph over these trying times. You are a strong mommy full of love for your boys. You will find somehting that works and things will ease up. We’ve hit nothing but brick walls with all of Kate’s doctors which is so infuriating because when you’re tired and exhausted and have nothing left, you would HOPE to be able to depend on theirknow;edge but so often, we’ve found out, they’re just wrong.
Listen to your mommy instinct because even the BEST physicians can’t compete with that. Here’s a big internet hug,
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