whoo hoo!!!!!!!!!

[Anonymous]

I picked up the book ” healthy sleep habits happy child” after reading some posts on here and in a day and a half Jack is sleeping through the night!!!!!!!!!!!

I was at my wits end with his sleeping, he never napped at the same time or lengh and he was up evey 2 to 3 hours at night. The first night was hard because he cried for 20 mins( we never let him cry before) than he slept from 7:40pm til 1:10am- ate and slept til 5am ate and got up at 7am. The next night I put him to bed before he was tired( 7pm) and he slept til 7am WITH NO WAKING!!! He also took 2 naps that were 1.5 hours long and a 30 min early evening nap. I thought maybe this was a fluke but yesterday he napped good and went down at 6:30pm, he woke at 4pm from his last nap, and again slept through the night- he woke at 6:30am.

The hardest part was listening to him cry for those 20 mins but in the end it worked. He is eating MUCH MUCH better and he is SOOOOO happy. I HAVE MY CHILD BACK!!!!

PLEASE GET THIS BOOK, anyone who is desparet like I was READ IT and do what it says because in the end it’s worth it!!!

Cris

[Anonymous]

Cris, I’m so glad that this book worked for you. It worked for my older child as well. After reading what Weisbluth has to say about reflux, I decided that I could not use it for my refluxer. I don’t mean this as a criticism, I just thought I’d share a bit about what Weissbluth has to say about reflux and MSPI.

On reflux: “Though it may be unwanted and undesirable, spitting up is rarely a medical problem. To reduce or prevent this behaviour, some pediatricians may prescribe anti-reflux drugs. In either case, no strong data link GER to fussiness or cying in most infants even if some children are medicated under the fanciful notion that the baby suffers the pain of heartburn or indigestion”….reflux does not cause sleep disturbance.

On MSPI: “A fallacy is that food or milk allergy causes fussiness in baies. Another falacy is that of lactose intolerance. Further it is impossible that foods the mother eats can cause reaction in the baby…foods eaten by the mother get broken doewn into elemental nutrients and absolved by the digestive system….so it is biochemically impossible that such foods could pass into the mother’s breast milk. Some mothers report that eliminating certain foods from their own diets improved their child’s sleep or behaviour. You may have heard that this is true, but it is not. It is onlly coincidence or wishful thining.”…. he also says that switching to other types of formulas will do nothing and are only a way for the doctor to buy time with the mother until the baby outgrows the problem. He says that these problems do not cause sleep disturbance and should not be used as excuses not to sleep train a baby who is older than four months. For babies who are more difficult at night, he advocates leaving them alone until they stop crying. He says that this could take up to “5 or 6 hours of crying” the first night, and suggests that the mother leaves the house so she is not tempted to go to the baby.

These exerpts are from his book called “fussy baby”. I am not writing these things to suggest not to use his methods, because I think that parents should do whatever works for them. As I said, I did use his methods with my older daughter, but was appauled when reading what he had to say about reflux and sleeping. I’ve since sold his book “healthy sleep habits happy child”, which I once considered my sleep bible, at a garage sale. I just could not trust his advice any more after reading his views.

[Anonymous]

congrats on a couple nights of rest, to both of you. sometimes the reflux seems worse when dd is sleep deprived. We do the same thing, we don’t wait until she is overtired, we put her down on schedule before she starts rubbing her eyes. She has to sleep every 3-3.5 hours. Took me forever to figure out how her clock ticks. Also, we didn’t do alittle cio until her reflux was managed. You will get used to hearing him fuss. Pretty soon you will notice that he has ways of soothing himself.

[Anonymous]

Good for you, Glad to hear you got some rest! I hope it lasts.

Is he eating any more during the day to make up for what he was getting a night, or did he just not really need the night time feedings?

My little guy is 2 months younger then Jack and I am not sure if he really needs to eat at night or if he is comfort eating or if it is just a habit. He eats 6-8 ounces during the night, broken up into two or three feedings.

I know most “normal” babies sleep through the night well before 4 months so I doubt he really needs to eat. It is so hard to figure these kids out some times.

[hellbennt]

YAY for sleep!

and yay for you, Lori for sticking to your principles!

I totally agree that whatever works for whomever is great!!! (as long as there is no painful suffering for the baby!)

But I hear you loud & clear about knowing people’s philosophies- for instance, I had (have) an AMAZING lactation consultant who believes what you posted weisbluth wrote- she told me to my FACE that she ‘doesn’t believe in reflux’ & well, i FREAKED on her & went OFF about hmmm, why was Jonah in the NICU at birth & sent home w/ a monitor then, etc etc, so she backed off & was like “oh, well, his case is special” I did continue to see her (great at what she did & I liked getting out of the house for her moms groups & meeting other moms), but knew from then on to take all of her parenting advice, etc, w/ a grain of salt…

SO: YAY for sleeping babies!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Anonymous]

I do want to say that I did find his “fussy baby” and reflux to be a bit disturbing and I did tweek his advice a bit. I would never let Jack cry for 60mins plus but I felt atleast 30 mins of whiney/crying wouldn’t hurt since he was feed, dry and ready for sleep. It did take it’s toll on me however.

I don’t,byfar, agree with everything this doc says but most stuff made sense so I tried it and it worked. I have also read the baby wistperer( all your probs solved) and the no cry sleep solution but neither of these worked and I didn’t really feel they dealt with refluxers.

Katey,

I knew Jack didn’t need to eat at night anymore when he was getting up every 2-3 hours and only taking 3 ozs at each feed. Now he takes 4 bottles during the day usually, he eats 6oz each time plus takes 4ozs of solids 3 times a day. I think the prevacid is working to keep the acid down because he still refluxs quite a bit during the day but it doesn’t seem to bother him.

Cris

[Anonymous]

Cris, I’m glad it worked for Jack. It worked like a charm for my non-refluxer, and I don’t think letting her cry hurt her at all. But after reading his views on reflux and how he advocated leaving them cry for as long as it took, I knew I couldn’t use it for Hailey- Because she’s so high strung that she would DEFINITELY be the baby who cried for 5 hours straight. I still don’t know what to do for Hailey, because whenever you let her cry at all- even for just a few minutes- she screams and vomits out of her nose. It’s such a nasty mess. I’ve never seen a baby do that before and it’s awful. I think that ultimately you know your baby, and I’m happy that he didn’t cry for too long- though I’m sure it seemed like an eternity to you- and started sleeping well. I’m so glad that you’re getting some sleep. I can only imagine how fabulous it is!! Any ideas for us?

[Anonymous]

Cris – glad it worked for you!

Katey – why do you think most “normal” babies sleep through the night
well before 4 months? I’m not being critical – just really curious
since most of my friend’s and relative’s babies didn’t and most of them
were “normal and healthy.”

[Anonymous]

I guess my friends and family must have been really lucky. All of the babies I know slept through the night by 8 weeks. Some even sooner.

My nephew was 3 months premature and he got up for a one night bottle until he was a year, but even he only got up ounce a night after 2 months.

It is good to hear that my little guy is not that different after all!

[Anonymous]

I think a lot of people exaggerate about how well their kids sleep. I
consider Marisa an EXCELLENT sleeper (boy are we lucky) but even she
woke once a night to eat until 4.5 months and now she sleeps through
but is a very early riser.

That said, I do think your son wakes and eats quite a bit at night.
Wonder if that could be a side effect from the Reglan – it empties his
stomach much faster so he feels hungry? Have you tried taking him off
it or even testing him to see if he needs it?

[Anonymous]

He has only been on the Reglan for a month. Before it he was miserable. He would wake up 6-8 times and night. He slept the first couple hours in his crib and then would have to move the swing for a few hours and finally he would have to lay on my chest to get any sleep.

He was eating every two hours day and night and only taking 2-3 ounces at a time. During the day he would only nap for a half hour at a time and was fussy most of the day.

After starting the Reglan he stated taken 1-2 hour naps, eating 4-6 ounces every three hours, and only waking up 2-3 times a night. He now spends the whole night in his be and goes right back to sleep after he eats his bottle. He is much happier during the day and will actually play and laugh most of the day!

I worry about the Reglan, and I know that his reflux is not totaly controlled, but he is so much better now I just cant stand the thought of going back to how he was last month.

Anyway sorry if that is too much info., but that is where we are at right now.

[Anonymous]

I’d seriously consider getting him off the Reglan (unless you find out
he definitely has DGE) and instead getting him on a good dose of a PPI
and see if that helps…

[Anonymous]

I agree with Karen. PPI’s work so much better for reflux. Have you looked at the information at marci-kids.com about PPI’s for reflux? Some babies are comfort eaters and will eat even if they are in pain. He could be waking from reflux pain.

Here’s the link: http://www.marci-kids.com/

[hellbennt]

I have found that many pediatricians prescribe zantac & reglan ‘just because.’ Your baby might not even need reglan…it’s for delayed gastric emptying & there’s a specific test for this. Of course many have found success with reglan, but if a baby does not have DGE, then it’s not necessary…

[Anonymous]

When we saw the peds GI doc a couple weeks ago she asked me why I kept declining the reglan when offered by our ped. All I can say is she was very pleased when I told her “because of the side effects and I don’t think he needs them”. She went on to say that many doc’s prescribe “just because” and most kids don’t need it.

I would say to anyone who on reglan and it’s working than continue. Even though it’s not right for everyone it is right for some.

Cris

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