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December 12, 2008 at 6:16 pm #59508AnonymousInactive
Ok I have been checking this site out for a while and now I am begging for your opinions. Story—-My son Joe is 5 1/2 months and since he was born feedings have been awful. They kept him in the hospital longer bc he wouldn’t eat and then he would cry during feedings. At first I was the awful mom that was literally force feeding him(they said get it down him no mater what). Well anyhow we don’t do that anymore. He only eats around 10oz a day and they 12-18oz at night when he is asleep. I hate feeding him in his sleep but he has to eat. Ok well the first ped had us on reglan and zantac, no good. And she kept changing his formulas from Good start to Soy and back again. Ok now this ped started him on alimentuim and pepcid instead. He would not eat an ounce of the alimentium after 3 days. Even when he was asleep he would pull away. So back to good start again. Then the ped gastro gave us prevacid 15mg a day, half in morning and have at night plus our pepcid and I made sure to do them 4 hours apart and waited 45 minutes to feed. Ok after 2 weeks on the prevacid (only night feedings)he refused to eat anything again, a whole 24 hours of nothing. It had started about a week after the prevacid but day 14 was the straw. They had me stop the prevacid and day 5 after stopping he started to eat around 2-3oz a time but thats it. His Gastro seems really concerned and next Thursday we go into Vanderbilt and are having the scope and the sigonostomy (like colonostomy but not as deep) and of course she will do biopsies and check for milk protein allergies. I mean he can’t eat. He wants to but when he starts he spits out the bottle and cries. Oh and he NEVER spits up, not one time. And we did have the upper gi and it did show the reflux but thats all that I really know bc it was the first pedi. I keep saying that I will go to a million doctors until I find out whats wrong with my little man. People (the 1st ped)say oh well he is gaining weight so what I don’t care if he weights 100lbs he is sick and deserves to feel well and happy. Anyways our docs noww are atleast trying to help. But what do you guys really think? I mean what else could this be with his symptoms? Ok I really appreciate you reading my book, and any help is so appreciated!!
December 13, 2008 at 9:29 am #59521hellbenntKeymasteroh mama!!!
sounds like silent reflux (no spitting up) & a feeding aversion
first of all the prevacid probaby isn’t enough…http://www.marci-kids.com is at the forefront of researching dosing of PPIs in infantsreflux & feeding aversion: https://www.infantreflux.org/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=10468&PID=89254#89254
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December 13, 2008 at 7:00 pm #59538AnonymousInactiveI’m so sorry to read your story- it really brings me back to very difficult times. Your story sounds almost exactly like ours. You can read more details by reading the link from Laura’s post above.
The first sign that something was wrong with Hailey was the feedings- difficult feedings, eventually very difficult feedings, and finally impossible feedings and a feeding strike. It took us getting to the point of the impossible feedings for us to get the reflux (silent) diagnosis- but even then, the meds didn’t fix the problems with the feedings.The first thing was that the dose wasn’t high enough- some babes need higher doses to get relief, and also for us, that we were giving a compound that wasn’t being made properly. In your case, I suspect that your son needs a higher dose. Also, for kids with feeding problems where it’s hard to get them to eat, they often don’t consume enough per feeding for the solutabs to work really well. You might want to look into caracream/buffer babies (you can do a search on here for more details).The other thing is that if he’s been in pain for a long time, sometimes the feeding aversion can be hard to break, even when the pain is controlled. For us this was the case unfortunately. Some people have been able to turn the bad feedings around- others have not been able to do it as easily. It really depends on the baby and how persistent they are, how much they remember the feeding pain, and how strong the fear of eating is. I’m glad to hear that you’re not force feeding anymore- whoever gave you that advice did not tell you something good. Yes, it’s important to try to get the food in, but forcing it is definitely not good for feeding aversions. We also ended up sleep feeding, and unfortunately it led to Hailey only drinking bottles while asleep in her chair in her room until she was about 2 years old. But we had no choice, it was the sleep feeding or the feeding tube. For us, I chose the sleep feeding, others have chosen the tube. It’s a personal decision. The doctors we saw didn’t think there was a problem b/c Hailey gained fine. They didn’t care that I comitted every minute of my day and night to trying to feed her for over 1.5 years. For us, the first step was getting the pain under control with a good dose of prevacid in caracream. Once I knew that the pain was well controlled and her tests came back showing this, then I knew that we could address the feeding. We tried to switch to goodstart to alimentum, like you, but were unsuccessful b/c the feeding aversion was already in place and she wouldn’t take to the switch. But others have done this successfully and may be able to advise you on how slowly and how to try this switch if you want to. I just couldn’t get her to do it, and b/c her intake was so low (also around 12-16 ounces a day with a lot of persistence while sleep feeding), we couldn’t force the issue. The next step for us was feeding therapy. You might want to try the same thing, but the pain really needs to be well controlled first.Hang in there. It does get easier, but unfortunately sometimes it’s a long road. How is he with solids or drinking from a cup? If it’s any consolation, we started feeding therapy at 8 months until around 15-16 months, can’t remember the details anymore. By age 2.5 we had a very fussy eater on our hands, but an eater nonetheless. By age 3.5 we now have a finicky eater who drinks with a definite repetoire of foods to eat, with her own likes and dislikes. I never thought we’d be here. But now it’s hard to imagine that we were once there. It’s hard. Try to get as much help from others as you can. And don’t be afraid of getting other opionions if your doc won’t try other doses or approaches. There’s a doctor’s recommendation page from Laura’s intro, and maybe you can find someone in your area who can help you. HUGS.December 14, 2008 at 10:51 am #59556hellbenntKeymasterDecember 14, 2008 at 11:45 am #59557AnonymousInactiveThanks for the help. I have a question, on the prevacid. My daughters old pedia gave us 3 boxes of prevacid samples of the capsules. But they are 30 mg, how do I figure out how much to give him with those. He was on the solutabs before. Oh and we aren’t doing solids. I tried and thinds are so bad so I couldn’t tell if it was helping or hurting. We def can’t do cereal in the bottle as he screams for hours even after gas treatments. His gastro told us to try and wait for solids until we are sure everything else is ok and if his milk needs to be changed again we could get that straight first then add solids. Ok and he broke out with hives with the solutabs, do you think thats what done it? They are still not gone but mainly on the body and legs or arms. I feel so bad as I have been reading everything and realizing that there are so many of us having problems with our little ones and getting the help they need. I just want to go to congress or something, haha but really I wish there was a way to let everybody know about this as I had no clue.
December 14, 2008 at 11:46 am #59558AnonymousInactiveOh and those tests that he is having done, are they really bad? I am scared to death but I know its something that has to be done.
December 14, 2008 at 7:51 pm #59565hellbenntKeymasteryou know what? I would just give the 30mgs a day, divided into 2 doses.it is ‘safe’ and might just be what he needs at the moment!make sure to give the meds on an empty stomach, followed by a meal 30 minutes later. you need to open the capsule and give the beads to the baby w/ a bit of applesauce- the bit of applesauce has enough acid to help to break the beads down once they’re in the stomach…you can read more if you go to the ‘medicine’ forum and look for the stickies (top posts) about the meds…as far as the tests, he’ll be fine. easy for me to say, but finally your baby is being taken seriously! they will see what exactly is going on in there and how bad (or fine!) it is…then you can plan a course of action and you can be the best advocate for your baby!December 15, 2008 at 10:28 am #59579AnonymousInactiveWe have a ton of the 30mg Prevacid capsules samples & they are AWESOME for making caracream/buffer babies.
For now I would:
1) email David Stock or call Reflux Solutions & get your free samples of buffer babies asap
2) start giving 15mg 2x/day of Prevacid capsules…use them w/ pureed apples or pears. It will be a pain in the butt to separate the beads (been there done that) but just be patient, put them on a cookie sheet or something you can contain them & use tweezers or a straight pin to separate.
The tests will be fine… my ds had a colonoscopy & scope @ 10 wks old & while it was a bit anxiety producing, it was well worth it to get some answers & rule some things out.
Hang in there…
December 18, 2008 at 5:33 pm #59719AnonymousInactiveok well We did our tests today and I don’t think I heard about the awful gas afterwards. He screamed soooo long it seemed like forever. She said everything looked fine and was sending the biopsies to be tested. How accuate will these results be for helping with allergies? It has been a rough day for all of us.
December 18, 2008 at 11:06 pm #59729AnonymousInactiveHang in there mama! you are so strong. I am always so impressed with the women on this forum.
Finn couldn’t tolerate the solutabs but loved buffer babies with capsules. So I’m ‘seconding’ erin’s above suggestions. and laura’s…just go with the 30 mg divided a day until you get the buffer babies. It will come with instructions on how to mix it up.
I wish we got the samples! we had to fork over serious cash for that stuff…before realizing we could run to mexico and buy it cheap .
david stock’s email: [email protected]
if you can’t get him to respond quickly, try Amy. She’s an administrator and so sweet, kind and helpful:
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she’ll get david to respond.Finn’s mom2008-12-18 23:10:11
December 25, 2008 at 7:57 pm #59860AnonymousInactiveJust wondering if you got the results of the endoscopy? My 15 month old son just had one. he has been on 30 mg of Prevacid a day (15 mg 2 times – solutabls) since he was 2 months old and he has never gotten better, but the docs all said since he was managing ok to wait it out – he would outgrow it at a year. when he didn’t and he appeared to be getting worse, we started doing tests. The endoscopy showed esophagitis, so now the GI is trying to figure out what is going on. He is getting pH probe done this week. Just wondering what your outcome is, seems kinda similar…hang in there, it is so frustrating!
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