Pear juice problems?

[Anonymous]

Anyone ever have their child react badly to pear juice? Doctor has us adding an oz directly to son’s bottles because he hasn’t been having bowel movements (even though they’re soft). But we’ve been picking up on him getting fussier and fussier (and trouble sleeping last night and today) and the only thing we can suspect is the pear juice..don’t want to stop if it’ll help him in the long run but so far he’s 4 1/2 months and he couldn’t tolerate reg formula, soy, nutramagin, rice, or prune juice. Am starting to get really scared if he’ll be able to ever eat anything.

Thank you!!

Tracy (Ian’s mom 9-26-05) Elecare and prevacid

[Anonymous]

I’d suspect that he’s getting fussier and not sleeping as well because
he is backed up and uncomfortable. Probably not the pear juice since
you’ve been using it for some time, correct? As you know, Marisa has
the same issues with her digestive system – all I can say is that I’ve
been told it takes our GERDlings longer – they have such sensitive
systems. We are likely going to try a course of probiotics next week
after seeing Ped – have you ever considered the same?

[Anonymous]

Tracy

I havent tried pear juice, but Tyler reacted badly to pears. I am also worried that he wont be able to tolerate many foods, but he can tolerate potato, so that is a start. I have been reading other posts and alot of people with MSPI babies find that they have to wait a bit longer to try solids until their babies systems have matured a bit. At 4 1/2 months you have plenty of time so dont panic.

We were just trialling oatmeal and Tyler got a cold and at the same time got a red rash all over his face, so now I dont know if it was the cold virus or the oatmeal that caused the rash. So now we have to wait for the cold to clear before trying again. It is just such a long frustrating process.

We have never had any constipation problems with Elecare, quite the opposite really on most occasions, it must be so frustrating.

[Anonymous]

Thank you both. I know I have to remind myself he will outgrow this (cross my fingers).

Yes, it is so scary and frustrating. Karen-we have used pear juice on and off but not this much or as regular. We did some research and found that pear and prune juice both have sorbitol, which a few studies have shown can aggravate an infant’s digestive system-particularily babies that had or have colic. Would make sense. Even when Ian had 1 oz of prune juice once a day, he’d be a little crankier.

I still don’t know if he’s backed up or constipated. His bm’s are sooooo loose (sometimes watery). It’s not like he even needs the juice as that’s supposed to loosen them up and it never works for us anyways. Really starting to worry on that.

[Anonymous]

That’s really interesting re that research – where did you find that?
I’d love to read it. Also – did it say how to heal the babies’
digestive systems after the aggravation? That definitely may have
happened to Marisa from all the rice and pear juice those 2 months…
Did it only say that about juice or about baby food/solids pears too?

The juice never really worked for us either. And I don’t think Ian
sounds constipated per se, since BMs are soft – but does sound like
maybe a bit backed up in his bowels or just maybe low tone – hence when
he doesn’t go so often.

Marisa hasn’t gone now since the three BMs Thursday and is starting to get uncomfortable… Hopefully tomorrow…

knb182006-2-11 20:49:31

[Anonymous]

Hey there! Same problem. Ryann can’t tolerate formula, soy, pear juice, prune juice, rice,… crazy. As for the poop issue. We only started getting regular morning poops at 5 months. At night, I have to stimulate her. She never has hard poops like from constipation. I have to use a baby suppository and hold it in place for a few minutes until i see her starting to make a face. Doc. said it was ok to do this. she just feels so much better after she gets relief and it helps the reflux because she is not pushing and straining.

[hellbennt]

on the yahoobreastfeedingreflux board they post all the time that their babies have troubles w/are sensitive to salactites and amines– I looked up pears and they’re low in salactites, but prunes are high, hmmm….and pears with the skins are higher….

http://www.zipworld.com.au/%7Eataraxy/Salic_03.txt

[Anonymous]

Thanks Laura – that’s interesting. So bananas are really low in
salactites but high in amines? Not too many fruits that are low in both
it seems?

I’m confused as to why pear and prune juice would have sorbitol if they are 100% juice like the Gerber juices or Sunsweet?

[Anonymous]

If you look up pear juice and ‘infant not tolerating’ on google or yahoo (we did this yesterday-I think that was the search) you should find a few hits as we did-for example-Univ. of New Mexico, Children’s Hospital of Miami, and somewhere we found a warning from American Board of Pediatrics (through another site). I should have copied the links, but Ian was so miserable yesterday, I just was searching for answers quick. Sorbitol I believe is found in some fruits already. The studies said infants with colic tendancies that were giving pear, prune, and apple juice had a higher rate of reaction, whereas on grape juice there were no issues (and of course Welch’s site will be happy to share this info as well-good for business). Kids without colic had minimal if no reaction. I’ll try to search later today and post some info if I can find it again.

We’re taking a turn for the worse-Ian has now started projectile vomiting and we’ve already called ped who said we need to come in tomorrow (big nor easter here today). Still no poop since Thursday. However, since we stopped pear juice last night-he’s in great spirits again today (rough night though). We’re only to give him pedialyte.

Sarah-do you still use the suppository? Do you take it out or leave it in? Might try that. Has Ryann been through any testing? Was her stool always loose? Just relieved right now to know someone else went through this.

Karen-What is low tone? Not quite sure. Poor Marisa. How’s spirits/eating today?

Tracy

[Anonymous]

Very interesting re the pear juice information – thank you. I wonder if
it holds true for the actual fruits too or just the juice?

Oh no – I’m so sorry to hear that about Ian. I wish you could get some answers today – but the blizzard is just crazy…

Marisa hasn’t pooped since Thursday either – hopefully today as she’s
getting pretty uncomfortable and bad hiccups. She ate well this morning
though and had fun and just fell asleep for first nap.

I’d be careful of using suppositories too often. They are great for
once in a while but used too often the baby can become dependent on
them…

Low tone and reflux can go hand-in-hand. I’ve heard that it basically
means that the muscles that cause the body to pass a BM are
underdeveloped but I’m not really sure to be honest.

[Anonymous]

Wow-never heard that about muscle tone. Interesting…that’s what made me think maybe hirschsprung’s because I thought perhaps nerves were missing.

We did just have a bm-if you can call it that. Gave him pedialyte and in middle of drinking – explosive sounds. Changed diaper and it was very watery and not much at all. We’re really concerned. I’m even going to crumble and call Dr. S tomorrow. Don’t know what else to do.

Marisa probably got a lot out the other day so hopefully she can hang on a little longer. I do have to remind myself that without eating solids-how much poop can you have anyways…right?

Tracy

[Anonymous]

Found some info on Dr. Sears as well. http://www.askdrsears.com/html/4/T042600.asp

So does this mean when we restart Marisa on solids we are better off
with a fruit like white grapes or or even apricots? If so, how would I
prepare something like white grapes? It’s tough – it’s like the pears
and prunes have a laxative effect which is good but they are hard on
the intestines, which is obviously an issue for Marisa (and it seems
for Ian)…

I’ll print out some of this information for our Ped and bring it when we go for her 6-month well visit on Friday…

Tracy – let me know what Dr. S. says – although since it was his
suggestion re the prune and pear juice in the first place (and also the
rice), I don’t know that I’d be too willing to listen to him.

knb182006-2-12 11:5:32

[Anonymous]

I know – I’m torn. But I think my reg ped will be lost with this. What do you think? My husband and I think maybe he even could have picked up something weird at daycare?? He’s only had 8 oz today(pedialyte substituted one feeding) and by now he’s eaten around 15 (with lots of enticing). But enticing isn’t even working. Lots of gas and arching now too. One more vomit.

Poor little guy.

Tracy

caoimhe2006-2-12 14:43:34

[Anonymous]

Maybe call both and get opinions from each? I’m sorry he’s not feeling well. Any fever?

[Anonymous]

Tracy – how is Ian today?

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