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March 5, 2009 at 11:08 am #61413AnonymousInactive
I keep thinking about how unfair it is for our babies to suffer like this. I am a new mom and cannot take it anymore. I cry daily and feel horrible about it. I feel totally helpless because I don’t know how to solve my baby’s problem. He’s happy until he thinks he is going to be fed or given medicine. He can’t even stand for us to hold him anymore because he knows one of the two things is going to happen. It makes me so sad that I can’t sit and cuddle with my little one. I look at other babies and wonder why my baby has to suffer. It has been so hard and I am at my breaking point. Every morning I wake up thinking that today will be a good day and it never is. He is not eating anymore. He has no appettie. My son does not vomit but it hurts him to eat. He will start crying in the middle of feedings so we never are able to finish- that is if he even takes the bottle. Poor guy is only 9 weeks old and has to go through all this. I wish there was a quick cure, I would pay any amout of money. Everyone thinks that I am over reacting but they don’t see what I see on a daily basis. When will it get better? I hate the fact that I don’t know anything. The meds are not working and my baby is still suffering.
March 5, 2009 at 1:33 pm #61423AnonymousInactivewhat meds and what dosage is he on. he sure doesn’t sound like he is appropriately medicated.
don’t let yourself fall apart—get some help if you need it. i’ve gone over the edge before and it is a long way back up. it’s alot easier to keep from getting to that point—and there is no shame in it—-plenty of us on the board have had counseling or medication or both to deal with stress.and you’re right—–life isn’t fair, and the sad thing, is that i never will be.kevieb2009-03-05 13:34:28
March 5, 2009 at 3:15 pm #61429AnonymousInactiveI remember the crying days. I used to cry most days for most of the day! It does get better but since it sounds like he is developing an aversion it may take longer than expected. I would push for more meds and look at diet/formula to see if those are contributing as well. It took us 14wks breastfeeding and 2 formula changes and 2 meds with multiple dose increases to have a happy baby (he still spit up tons and I still cried b/c of it, but he was much much happier!) It takes time to figure out the right combo. hang in there.
March 5, 2009 at 3:20 pm #61431AnonymousInactivejust wanted to add i have been there with my first..and again with my second. the time i spent stressing and feeling miserable about what my first was going through STOLE all the time i had to enjoy anything with him. The first year was hell and a blur. This time with my second.. i started to feel miserable again.. and i am now on prozac..and it has worked VERY VERY well. … it helps me deal with the stress a bit better.. and relax. I KNOW this is a very real situation.. but we need to try and relax through it all because everyone else around us feels the stress that we are going through (ie kids, husband).
All you can do is what you are doing.. make sure he is properly medicated..and on the right formula(or diet).If you need anyone to talk to .. you can email me. Hang in thereMarch 5, 2009 at 4:59 pm #61436AnonymousInactiveBig hugs! I have been there with my DD. It does get better. I cried a lot and was depressed because of DD’s reflux. The only way she ate was thru dreamfeeding and she also projectile vomited a lot! It was so sad and just desperate. I am also a FTM and I was online a lot researching/reading info on reflux.
What meds and how much dosage is your LO on? My DD developed bottle and food aversion and has to be on therapy for that.
Hang in there! There’s so many of us here who have been there, I hope u can find some support here at least.TheaMarch 5, 2009 at 6:30 pm #61439AnonymousInactiveMy son 12 pounds is on Prevacid 7.5 mg twice daily. It has been almost a week now and no change, in fact things are worse. He does not want to eat. We went to the doctor Tuesday and gave us Carafate which did not help. We went to the doctor again today and got Bethanecol. We haven’t given it to him but I am hoping it will do something. If this does not work then we are to have an endoscopy.
When I say he does not eat- he really doesn’t. He can go 7 hours and not cry for a feeding. He is perfectly happy except when it comes to feedings. I think he has an aversion also but the doctor said that she thinks he is too young (9 weeks) to know.March 5, 2009 at 6:32 pm #61440AnonymousInactiveThanks for the support. I really need it. I know I shouldn’t stress or worry but I can’t help it. It is just not fair that our little ones have to start life like this.
I know that the worries just cause tension amongst other family members but I just can’t help it. I am tired of crying, I am tired of thinking about it, I am tired of IT!!!
March 5, 2009 at 9:14 pm #61447AnonymousInactiveCan you do the dreamfeeding for now? Like I mentioned in my previous post. It takes a long time but give him a bottle when he is sleepy/falling asleep, etc. This is the only way I was able to get my DD to eat for a long time. I think he sounds like he has an aversion. Don’t stop the Prevacid. If he has an aversion then it won’t go away immediatly from the Prevacid. He’s associating feeding with pain and that’s why he doesn’t want to eat.
Let me know if you need help with the dreamfeeding. My DD was referred for feeding therapy at 5 months old but I listened to people that “she’s normal” and I never did take her. Then at 15 months old she started feeding therapy w/ a Speech Language Pathologist, she still had the feeding aversions.I understand about the stress. My DH and I almost divorced at the height of my DD’s reflux.TheaMarch 6, 2009 at 9:37 am #61455AnonymousInactiveHi there. So sorry to hear about your son. Believe me, I understand how you feel. I was exactly there- except that my dd was chronically miserable… wouldn’t eat, or sleep. Didn’t want to be held, but didn’t want to be put down either. Fussed in our arms. NEVER cried to be fed and when I would try to feed her after almost half a day of no intake, she still would refuse. Initial symptoms started subtle- thought it was overactive let down. But by 6 weeks things were quite difficult, and by 8 weeks it was a complete feeding strike. I was saying I suspected a feeding aversion at about 5-6 weeks, the ped was pushing the BF problems. When she finally went flat out refusing I brought her to the ped again and told him to try to feed her. I showed him how she refused to nurse, then gave him a bottle of EBM and told him to try to feed her. Needless to say he could not- immediately said reflux with feeding aversion. Your son definitely has a feeding aversion. His prevacid dose may not be enough for him. Hailey was on every kind of dose, didn’t get relief until 30mg daily and higher. Even then, her pain was under control but the feeding problems were too ingrained. BUT we were at 8 months at that point. You are at 9 weeks, so it’s still possible to turn things around. Ask the ped GI to try a higher dose of prevacid. Look at http://www.marci-kids.com . Read about dosing information- it’s aggressive but works, and most kids with feeding problems need higher doses. If you’re giving solutabs- make sure to give on an empty stomach and follow up with a meal 30 minutes-60 minutes later. That activates the med. The problem for us was that due to the feeding aversion I couldn’t get her to feed on demand, so the med wouldn’t work, and also the dose was too low. She needed 3x a day dosing, and also we used CaraCream, now called Buffer Babies from marci kids so that we didn’t need to time around meals. It worked much better due to the feeding problems. But getting her to take the meds was a human torture- she screamed and cried and spit it up after most of the time, so I understand your frustration. It’s very hard. We also did sleep feeding, not by choice. It was a bandaid kind of solution to get us through, but she still didn’t eat easily, and eventually would only feed by sleep feeding, so I don’t really recommend it as a great choice. We were desperate and just kind of fell into the pattern.
About the stress- it’s terrible. It almost tore us apart. Get help if you can, from family members or others. Take a break. Being a new mom can be hard to begin with, so people often attribute the situation to a new mom not being able to handle things. But that’s not it. People don’t and can’t understand unless they’re in the situation. They’ll tell you not to worry, that babies will eat when they’re hungry, and think that you don’t know that. But know that it’s not you. My first dd was not a refluxer, and so I knew what a baby should eat like by the time Hailey- my refluxer- came along. My first was 20 months at the time. Babies who are not in pain cry to eat, and then seek comfort from the fact that they are fed. They open their mouths eagerly to get their food, and eat until they are full, and then they are content. Babies with reflux pain or a feeding aversion may never cry to be fed. They attribute feeding with pain. When we offer them food, they may initially go for it and then pull away and cry or arch or refuse more because the pain starts. They may even go back for more, but continue this. Or they may be so afraid of the pain that they may cry when you try to feed them, and turn away or refuse to open their mouths. THIS IS A FEEDING AVERSION. TELL YOUR DOCTOR. IT IS NOT NORMAL. We were sent to pediatric psychiatrist who tried to tell me that my daughter had a feeding aversion due to my stress, or due to me force feeding her. You will hear lots of wrong things. I did not believe this and don’t believe the things that you hear from others. You will get through this and it will pass, but definitely best to try to get things under control now.Here’s what I would do:1) Get a referral to a ped GI if you don’t have one already. If you tell us where you live, someone can recommend someone who believes in higher PPI dosing.2) See if you can get him on a higher dose of PPI.3) Read marci-kids and see how you feel about what they suggest. The pharmacist who does the research for marci-kids will call doctors to advocate for higher PPI dosing. Let us know if you want to try this.4) Ask for a feeding evaluation. This can be done by an OT or an SLP who will look at how your son feeds. They are attune to feeding problems. They will make sure that his suck/swallow/breathe are co-ordinated and that there are no other issues, they’ll make sure that he’s not aspirating etc.5) Try to feed ds when he’s relaxed or with distraction- i.e. when carrying him, or in front of the TV, though he’s still young. Tell us more about what his feeding looks like when you try to feed him, and maybe I can help more. I’ve been through a lot of feeding therapy with dd.6) Take breaks and try to get help for yourself.Good luck. For what it’s worth, my dd had a terrible feeding aversion. It was very hard. I didn’t think I could do it, but we made it through. She is now a finicky eater, but what I’d call almost a normal eater- fussy, but eats a lot of what she likes and we don’t worry about her intake at all. Hang in there! HUGS.March 6, 2009 at 9:42 am #61456AnonymousInactiveOne more thing to consider- he may have MSPI (milk/soy protein intolerance or allergy). Is he BF or bottle fed? What kind of formula if bottle fed? What are his diapers like- some types of poop (mucous, stringy, strange colours etc) or rashes lend to thinking about MSPI. Sometimes a foruma change will be in order to address this, and this can help. Some babies need alimentum or something like neocate. If you’re BF, you may want to try eliminating dairy from your diet to see if that helps. You can read more about MSPI to see if that sounds like your situation. Good luck.
March 6, 2009 at 10:29 am #61458AnonymousInactives&h’s mum I’m glad u explained it in detail for her. ITA w. everything u mentioned. For my DD for her to eat/drink it had to be completely quiet and she would be asleep. We couldn’t go hardly anywhere, if we did, we had to be home in 2 hrs or less so I could rock/hold and feed her. Her feeding would take 1 hour, very, very slow sucking while asleep. I was desperate and I didn’t know what else to do.
OP, hang in there. My DD finally started willingly taking the bottle at around 15months. I’m in no way taking the bottle away now that she is actually liking it. My DD had MSPI and at 12 months she had allergy testing (due to unexplained symptoms) and found out she has milk and egg allergies. I know all the info is overwhelming but try and read all of them and bring them to your doctor’s attention. I had to switch pediatricians because the 1st one won’t listen to my concerns! My DD was losing weight and pooping watery mucusy bloody diarrhea and she just kept dismissing us, plus the reflux issue. Be vigilant with these doctors. I have a feeling they tend to dismiss FTM more than experienced moms. My DD sees a pediatric GI and a pediatric allergist, a nutritionist and also a speech language pathologist.
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March 6, 2009 at 2:52 pm #61460AnonymousInactiveThanks for all the info. I have been reading up on things. I live in Houston and would love for you guys to recommend a GI specialist for me. I need to find a solution quickly. My current pedi doesn’t want to increase his dosage (7.5mg twice daily). You guys are right he does not seem concerned because my son is not losing a ton of weight. I just don’t want this to get to the point of no return.
He is on Nutramigen currently and I was hoping that was going to help things but it hasn’t. His poops go from green to brown to yellow and they smell HORRIBLE.March 6, 2009 at 4:14 pm #61462AnonymousInactiveI’m in the same boat as you. I wake up every morning and think “I can’t go threw this yet again” Grant was doing well or so we thought untilhis last check up he gained next to nothing. I am at my wits end and so ready to throw in the towel but I know I can’t. I hope that our swallow study will show why this is happening and by the grace of God the dr.s will have some miricle cure. Hang in and PM me if you need to talk.
March 6, 2009 at 5:47 pm #61465AnonymousInactiveThanks for all the support. I wish you moms and your precious children all the best. We are also going to schedule a GI. I hope it shows something so that we can figure all this.
Every free moment that I have I am constantly thinking about my son and his reflux. There have been many a times that I want to quit but I can’t- it’s just so hard. This whole thing has been so mentally and emotionally draining. None of my friends seem to truly understand. They think that I am a new mom that just wants everything to be perfect. I don’t want perfection I just want a healthy and happy baby.March 6, 2009 at 7:28 pm #61466AnonymousInactiveHang in there!!!! This can be so emotionally and mentally draining. I think we all cried for a good part of the day many days in a row dealing with this awful thing…….
I am sending hugs your way and know you can ALWAYS come here to vent and for support through this! I can not believe this August it was 6 years ago that I thought I wanted to jump out the window. I can really remember the day I was at my lowest. So So difficult, but I can tell you that the older they get the less and less this is going to control your life. It did literally control us while reflux was a part of Dylan’s life, but we were much more prepared when Carter had it and had his reflux under control much faster.Even though both of my boys didn’t outgrow it in the first year, we had it under control in 8 months for Dylan (this is much longer than it should take, but I had just found this site when he was almost 7 months old) and Carter was within 3 months.You are doing all of the right things and don’t be discouraged if you don’t find anything on the swallow study. It doesn’t always show reflux, but they can check for aspiration and abnormalities, so it is a good test for that, but if they are not refluxing at that moment in time, you may not see it and it definitely does not mean, though that your baby does not have reflux.hang in there and we have all been there and are here for you!!!! -
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