MSPI – Options Post Formula

[Anonymous]

Hi, Everyone!

Brady is a MSPI guy who is on Nutramegin. This past weekend, we tried yogurt two days in a row (pediatrician’s recommendation… ). He had a rash and two hours of crying the second day. So…. no yogurt. And most likely no other dairy for a loooong time. (He will be seven months next week). We may try again around 10 months.

Here’s my question… if he reaches a year and still cannot tolerate milk proteins, what the heck do we transition him to? I have read that babies who have trouble with milk proteins have trouble with soy, too.

Also, my ped recommended not to give him meat until he potty trained. Since he cannot have yogurt, cheese, and other sources of protein, I guess I will have to go to meats earlier unless you knowledgeable ladies have other recommendations!

Thanks in advance for your help.

[hellbennt]

well, I’m not sure I understand your ped’s recommendations at all…7 months seems very early for yogurt, even for a non reflux, non mspi baby! so going from THAT, I would research on your own as to when you think you want to introduce proteins to your baby. Me, I introduced proteins (egg yolk, beans, poultry, some meat) at 9 months. that’s me, though, lol.

lots of mspi babies do fine with rice milk and some even add ‘good’ fat to it like flax seed oil or even olive oils. some just give the essential fatty omegas as supplements…some try almond milk, again w/ extra fat to the diet. there’s even potato milk…

this should help some: Mspi/allergy info(‘main page’): https://www.infantreflux.org/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=2697&PN=1&TPN=1

[Anonymous]

We do rice milk with Dylan. there is also almond milk or potato milk as well that has no milk or soy in them. You have almost 6 months before your baby is one year. Is there a reason your ped wanted you to try yogurt at 6 months? That seems early to me. Maybe others will chime in…

Hang in there!

ann Marie

[Anonymous]

HA, Laura. We posted at the same time…

[Anonymous]

Here is our little MSPI/milk story:

We had the same reaction at 7 mos. for yogurt. Then at 12 mos.. he seemed o.k with it.. but we think it made his excema and reflux worse. He ended up being very mildly allergic to dairy (from a test) so we held off of it just until now (18 mos). Since we got him off of alimentum and onto goodstart when he was 9 mos old.. he was too used to that to go back. So.. we had to find a milk with no dairy in it (goodstart has dairy) .. so we went to soy milk. He ended up being intolerant to that as well (mucous). So i tried Goats milk.. and he did well with it. Since it does have casien and is very similar to Cows milk. .I try not to give him too much of it. So I also give rice and almond milk! He loves all of them.. I even mix them together. I also add olive oil to his bottles every once in a while. I give him Cod Liver Oil as well for the the Essential Fatty Acids and Vit D and A.( If you do give the Cod liver oil make sure its a trusted Brand.) Some moms give Flax oil for the omega 3’s…

As for the protien .. I havnt really found a correlation with meats and any issues for him except for Cows Meat. He didnt do too well with it when we tried it. But he does fine with Chicken and Turkey.

Goodluck with your 12 month trial!!

[Anonymous]

We kept Alana on the hypo formula past 12 months at the peads recco. She has now successfully transitioned to soy, so there is some hope for that as well. We tried yoghurt a few times with no sucess until about a month ago. Now she can do soy milk and normal yoghurt! So again there is some hope even when the early trials don’t go so well.

The recco about the meat and potty training is interesting? Was there any particular reason? Waiting until 2-3 years old would seem to be unusual, unless of course there was some medical reason.

[Anonymous]

Lauren,

Did you take Shane to an allergist for the milk allergy diagnosis? We want to take Brady, because I suspect he may also have an allergy, not just an intolerance.

Thank you!!!

Karen

[Anonymous]

Thank you, Laura, and thank you other moms who posted! I really appreciate the input and information.

To answer some of your questions…

When we took Brady for his 6 month checkup, he was really doing well on the First Foods. We had tried him on squash, carrots, sweet potatoes, prunes, peaches, pears, and green beans. We did not do applesauce because of the gas factor (this kid has been through enough…) and had not tried peas cause we were afraid of allergies. I asked the doc about second foods. That is when he told me that he viewed second foods as a marketing racket, and that the baby could be started on bits of regular food. I asked for suggestions. He mentioned cottage cheese and yogurt among them.

I mentioned his issue with regular formula and asked if those foods would bother him. He advised that some babies with issues digesting regular formula could eat yogurt and soft cheeses without issue. So I tried the yogurt, and well, won’t be doing that again soon.

The whole thing with the no meats until potty training he gave two reasons for. The first was that blood tests on ‘vegetarian babies’ are consistently healthier (we are not vegetarians, nor will he be – this was just a reason he gave to substantiate holding off). He also advised that it makes diapers much less pleasant, and without significant dietary benefit (he then reiterated that the baby could get his proteins elsewhere, like from yogurt, cheeses, etc.).

I was actually the one to figure out Brady’s issues with milk proteins, and the one to determine that his prescription dosage was not sufficient for him (backed up later by his specialist). So I guess I will have to go with my gut and not always follow the doctor’s advice (we live in a very rural area, and his physican is the best in the area… there are not a lot of options for changing up).

Thanks again!

[Anonymous]

Allergy testing will not be accurate on a 6 month old. You will have to wait quite a while for that. I think they first become accurate above age 2? Someone else who knows, please jump in here….

Thanks!

[Anonymous]

Hi Karen,

I did take him to get allergy tested just “to see”… i think it is true that it isnt fully accurate at that age. We did it at 12 months. The first test came back neg to everything.. but they thought they saw a slight slight pos. mark .. so they did it again. And then it came back still so slightly for dairy and eggs. But i have never seen a reaction to eggs. .so we still give them. And dairy could have been his intolerance that he is growing out of.

[hellbennt]

well I agree about the marketing ploys of the stage 3 foods, etc

& I also believe in giving baby finger foods as soon as they are able

finger foods:

https://www.infantreflux.org/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1653

Toddler foods-mspi safe& otherwise:

https://www.infantreflux.org/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=2599&PN=1

[Anonymous]

I would probably do a little more research on the vegetarian until 2 stuff. Just my opinion though. Maybe a dietician? Particuarly if milk etc will be an issue. There are some great dietician who specialise in paediatric diets in Aus and I’m sure you will find them in the US. Goodlcuk with finger foods…ALana started early and loved feeding herself.

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