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January 16, 2009 at 7:09 pm #60377
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InactiveI just received a sample of buffer babies. I’ve very excited to try it out with my son. The start guide lists Nexium as one of the PPIs, but it only talks about the 40 mg capsules. It says that you have to pour nine capsules into a mortar and grind them up.
I have 40 mg packets of Nexium (not capsules). Do I still need to grind them up, or is the powder the ground up form of the capsules. I’m confused. Do I still use 9 packets (instead of 9 capsules) since it’s the same 40 mg dosage? I tried to contact David from Reflux Solutions, but I haven’t heard back from him yet, and I want to start using it tonight.
Thanks, in advance, for your help!
January 17, 2009 at 11:22 am #60395hellbennt
Keymasteri know nothing about grinding up anything, sorry- I would imagine the packets are NOT the same as the capsules- but if the packets have little beads, that look like the beads found in a capsule, then maybe they are the same beads, just some are put in capsules and some are put in packets along w/ flavoring powder? so, if you think the beads are the same as what you’d find in capsules, then I’d strain out the packets to get the beads…maybe ask your pharmacist or call the drug company that makes nexium and ask if they are indeed the same beads?
I’d really wait though for refluxsolution instructions and just work with the beads you have from the packets for the time being– I’d strain out the beads and take a tiny bit of powder to mix with water just enough to help get the beads down-I’d give on an empty stomach followed by a meal 30 minutes later until you get the go-ahead from refluxsolutionsJanuary 24, 2009 at 7:09 pm #60538InactiveHere is the info. that I received from refluxsolution….
Dr. Phillips said: “The powder form of Nexium contains
>> enteric coated granules with acidic flavoring. Nexium does
>> not come as a powder it is enteric coated granules in a
>> powder that is acidic.” So he is saying that the
>> ‘Nexium powder’ cannot be used with BufferBabies,
>> since the acid in the flavoring neutralizes the buffer. We
>> recommend OTC Prilosec (Equate brand Omeprazole delayed
>> release tablets from Walmart works well) or Lansoprazole
>> (Prevacid, you have to get a prescription). Let me know if
>> you have any other questions.
>>
>> Sincerely,
>>
>> David Stock
January 30, 2009 at 3:41 pm #60704InactiveHow does Buffer Babies work if you don’t have a meal 30 minutes later…how are the proton pumps turned “on” so that the medicine can work on them? I have a very elementary understanding of PPI’s, so maybe I’m just confused but I didn’t understand this point. I would love to try BufferBabies, it would be so great to not have to time meds with meals/empty stomachs!
January 30, 2009 at 5:27 pm #60705InactiveHello,
This is the information that David Stock, the contact person for Buffer Babies, sent to me. You can e-mail him and ask him for a free sample.
I hope that this helps. Good luck!
What is BufferBabies?
BufferBabies is what is known as a Pharmaceutical aid. It allows a medicine to be changed from a solid to a liquid.
It is not a medicine, however, it does contain buffers that permit the delayed release form of a PPI drug such as omeprazole or lansoprazole to be converted into an immediate release form of the same drug.
Most PPI drugs, except Zegerid, are made as delayed release granules or delayed release tablets. When a suitable buffer, such as BufferBabies, is added to these forms of the PPI drug the granules or tablet will disintegrate thereby producing the drug itself without the enteric-coating. Then the buffers in the BufferBabies protect the PPI drug from acid in the stomach and permit its rapid absorption.
Each bottle of BufferBabies will allow many doses and as such, it would be more like a liquid formulation of other drugs for children (such as Amoxil suspension, amoxicillin suspension).
January 30, 2009 at 7:21 pm #60707InactiveThanks Jen. I emailed David Stock and am waiting to hear back. I did speak to a pharmacist at Zegerid today (called 1-888-778-0887 number and then was supposedly transferred to a pharmacist) and she said you still had to eat 1 hour later, but perhaps she was incorrect or BufferBabies is different. However, I want clarification because the marci-kids site claims, “Unlike enteric-coated PPIs, which must be taken 30 minutes before a meal, Zegerid can be given without regard to mealtime.” So I just wanted clarification on why Zegerid’s saying you still need to eat.
January 31, 2009 at 7:02 pm #60717Inactiverebeccamay wrote: Thanks Jen. I emailed David Stock and am waiting to hear back. I did speak to a pharmacist at Zegerid today (called 1-888-778-0887 number and then was supposedly transferred to a pharmacist) and she said you still had to eat 1 hour later, but perhaps she was incorrect or BufferBabies is different. However, I want clarification because the marci-kids site claims, “Unlike enteric-coated PPIs, which must be taken 30 minutes before a meal, Zegerid can be given without regard to mealtime.” So I just wanted clarification on why Zegerid’s saying you still need to eat.
lol… aren’t you just in LOVE with all the contradicting information? especially when it’s about putting medicine into your baby?
i have to say, i haven’t figured it out yet either. dd takes zegerid, and i just give it to her whenever, like marcikids says it is okay to do. sometimes it ends up working out that she eats about an hour later, sometimes not.
February 5, 2009 at 12:38 pm #60801InactiveI have a question about Buffer Babies … is the PPI you mix with it an over the counter PPI or do you have your ped change your perscription to the capsule format of your current PPI?
We’re currently using Zegerid with great success, but I’m interesting in how this Buffer Babies would compare – especially price wise since our insurance doesn’t cover any of this!Jenn
Mom to David (7), Ava (12/05/05) & Tessa (08/15/08) – GERD treated w/ 20 mg daily Zegerid
Jenn_mom2d2009-02-05 12:40:16
February 5, 2009 at 3:38 pm #60806Inactiveyou have to use Prevacid capsules (so yes, have your ped change the script).
February 6, 2009 at 3:48 pm #60837InactiveYou don’t have to time around meals with either buffer babies or zegerid. Both are immediate release. It’s only delayed release where you need to time around meals. With immediate release, the buffer in the suspension protects the stomach from any acid and also turns on the proton pumps (it’s the sodium bicarbonate that does this) so that they can be turned off by the med. In delayed release, you need to give the med on an empty stomach to ensure that the med won’t be broken down by stomach contents, and then you eat the meal 30 minutes later to turn on the pumps so that the med can turn them off. In the end, they both do the same thing. But with the immediate release PPI- zegerid, buffer babies/caracream, you don’t need to worry about meals.
You do need a capsule form of PPI though. As David said, you can use generic prilosec, but beware from a mom who has tasted it, that prilosec tastes TERRIBLE when crushed or chewed or swallowed outside of it’s enteric coating. It has a VERY bitter taste that is hard to mask, and required me to get a chaser to get rid of it.
Good luck.
February 6, 2009 at 6:04 pm #60840InactiveThank you so much for explaining the turning on the pumps part, I really appreciate it and I can’t wait to try buffer babies. I’ve left a couple of messages for David Stock, but haven’t heard back. Is there any other contact for puchasing buffer babies?
Thanks again!February 6, 2009 at 6:09 pm #60842InactiveYou can try Dr. Phillips at [email protected]. David Stock works with (under?) him. I’ve e-mailed him before when I had questions about Nexium. Hope that helps.
February 9, 2009 at 10:25 pm #60910InactiveHi ladies. I just got my sample kit of Buffer Babies but I’m a little stumped. I emailed David about some of my questions but he really didn’t answer them or maybe he misunderstood?
My DD takes 7.5 mg a day of Prevacid solutabs. We are getting a new RX for capsules. How do I know how many capsules to use ? And also does it matter if she gets 7.5 or less? We are gonna wean her soon and I figured it would be easier than guessing on those solutabs bec. I was told the granules settle wherever and not necessarily on both sides (when u break it off). So anyway this is why I got interested in Buffer Babies.The rep said in his email to check Marci-kids for the dosage but I know my DD’s dosage already, which is 7.5mg. She doesn’t need any more than that.Any advice would be appreciated!ThanksTheaFebruary 10, 2009 at 4:40 pm #60926InactiveHow many mg. are in each capsule in your prescription? I have 15 mg. Prevacidc apsules, so you would have to use half of one capsule. You open the capsule up and there are lots of little white balls. I think you coudl probably use half the medicine inside and then reseal the capsule for the next day unless you can get smaller dose capsules, that would be easier.
February 10, 2009 at 6:09 pm #60929Inactiverebeccamay – I’m gonna use it with the Buffer Babies. But the directions says 30mg Prevacid capsules. I have 15 mg capsules.
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