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July 10, 2007 at 8:55 pm #38982AnonymousInactive
I am in a rut with my marriage also. We always fight, he irritates the crap out of me, dosen’t help much, and I sleep with Adriana and he sleeps on the couch! It makes me feel a little better to hear that others are facing the same problems. I hate to say it but sometimes I feel like having a child ruined our relationship (not that I would give Adriana up).
I am faced with a big decision. We are planning to move to Colorado from illinois. All of my family is here, so do I go there and remain lonley AND miserable or do I just end it. It sucks, all I can think of is how much I want Adriana to be with both her moomy and daddy.I hope things wok out, for all of us!!July 11, 2007 at 12:55 am #38993AnonymousInactiveAmen Amen Amen
But I must say things have got better now Alana is reflux free and getting older. I think we both decided if we didn’t put some effort in our marriage was pretty much over. We actually went away for a weekend as a family, buggered the expense and had a great time. This set things back on track a little. We now do lots of things together, the three of us on weekends, even if its just fish and chips at the beach or a picnic. Getting out of the house and away from the mess was part of it. We still have ups and downs but “adopting my husband out to another family” is only a weekly versus hourly thought.DH has finally agreed that he has a 7 year history of depression symptoms which i think was breakthrough and he is getting some treatment.The sex thing is not back on track. It kind of feels awkward and silly (theres a kid in the other room!!!!!!). But most of my friends with new bubs and young children feel this way, so it helps to know I’m not weird.Relationships are hard work, and I think I only truely appreciated that after we had Alana.July 11, 2007 at 7:33 am #38995AnonymousInactiveThank you so much everyone! It’s so great to have people to talk to about this that understand.
Heather- your husband sounds great! Dh would NEVER do those things with me, so I guess we struggle to find things that we can both get involved in together. He would never take interest in things that I do, and even when I talk about my day at work, you can see that he’s not interested and is hardly listening. It’s nice that even through all that you’ve been through, your relationship has stayed strong.Thais- Nice to hear from you! How are you feeling? How’s Matthew? It’s funny b/c dh has never been able to talk to me on the phone from work. We’ve had this conversation before. I’ve asked him to call me. He never does unless it’s the time he should be home to tell me that he’s going to be late. If I call him, it’s short and to the point. He says that he’s too busy to talk about what’s going on outside of the office, which I do understand. He has a new demanding job that forces him to work through lunch so that he can see the kids at night. But it still makes me feel bad. He talks to me like a business partner. We used to give each other time off before Hailey came along- we would alternate sleeping in on weekends, we would go out for some alone time every so often, but now it’s just gotten harder with Hailey’s situation on top of Sarah’s seizures. I guess that things were not great before Hailey was born, and now they’re just harder. Enjoy your vacation! Sounds great!Jenny- I’m sorry that you’re also going through a hard time. You have a really hard decision. I don’t know what I’d do. Do you guys have to move? Good luck!Therese- Thanks for the chuckle. You always make me smile. I guess the reflux thing with Hailey has dragged on longer then we expected when she was a baby, and it’s all kind of snowballed. We do things as a family all the time on the weekend, but for some reason it doesn’t fill my needs for time with dh. There’s just no emotion or romance or excitement, and sometimes even no kindness in our relationship. When we first met, things were so exciting and passionate. Things were great for the 7 years we were together until we got married. They were good after we got married, and they were fine after Sarah was born, but then we got off track. How do you walk out of the house without even saying goodbye to your wife?… forget asking for a kiss! (I don’t even remember the last time we kissed outside of a sexual situation, and even that’s hard to remember our personal life has taken such a horrible turn!) It’s really pathetic. I honestly don’t even know if another heart to heart will do it unless we make a plan for how to get there. Otherwise it just constantly gets pushed to the back burner. I know he has a lot of stress and I don’t want to add to that. That’s why I wish he would agree to go for some counselling. Maybe if someone else added a different perspective on things and gave us some advice for how to fix things. I offer many suggestions, but he doesn’t listen. I suggest marriage books to read, but he doesn’t seem to care. And he’s a good person and a good father and on many levels a good husband. Just not a very good partner.Anyhow, sorry for the sob story. Thanks again for listening.s&h’s mum2007-07-11 07:35:21
July 11, 2007 at 9:13 am #38996AnonymousInactiveLori,
i suck at giving advice, so i just want to send you lots of hugs and let you know that I also have experinced that feeling when your love just seems to be gone. We went to many marriage conferences and Dh never paid attention to anyhting they said. We are religious people and what finally got Dh attention was this course in Christianity our church sent us to called “Cursillo” and something changed for him that day. That was a year ago and i have noticed he has put some effort in improving our relationship since then. We try to go out on dates once a month (even when it cost an arm and a leg, b/c of kendra extra care), but i think it has been worth it. Also DH is like Thais husband, he likes to have time with his friends (he is a very people person) and he likes to go on mission trips. So we have agreed for him to go away some time and i get some weekends to myself to do what ever i want. I also read this book called ” A woman Walk with God and i learned a lot about how my behavior and what i say i do sometimes affect the way your husband treat you and think about you. I followed a lot fo her advice and i have good results. Any ways iam a great listener, if you want to just talk about it.July 11, 2007 at 10:17 pm #39038hellbenntKeymastercan you believe I don’t have much to say?
no, I just want to give my support…My life is far from perfect, but there’s not much I feel like adding here…I will add one of my thoughts-regarding libido, my libido or lack thereof- my thought that perhaps it’s bcse of the birth control pill and perhaps breastfeeding…but I am so not wanting to try an IUD or other methods at the moment and so I am confessing here that I just am never in the mood…sigh. but this seems tiny in comparison so that’s all I have to add at the moment…lots of support for everyone!I can post books that folks recommed over at TBW if you want? I mean about relationships, etc…seems lots are in the same boat…July 11, 2007 at 10:34 pm #39039AnonymousInactiveLori,
I think almost every marriage has had it’s ups and downs no doubt about it. Proof here in all these similar posts.If dh doesn’t want to participate in counseling, it does sound like you have tried. Maybe you should check out counseling for yourself and let him know that you are going and not that it’s to bash him, just that you feel that things are going in the wrong direction and that you need some advice or someone to really listen to how you feel. I know that when I follow through with something, sometimes dh sees that I’m for real. Maybe your dh doesn’t really see how desperate you are??? Maybe if he sees you are going to counseling he will want to join in just to see what you are saying about him??I think that Kevin and I have come closer together b/c of Owen and being that we have only been married 5 yrs I guess I consider us to still be a “young” married couple and maybe we haven’t hit that plateau yet? We have also had a lot of close friends who have divorced including Kevin’s older sister and we just don’t want to go there……On the whole subject of the physical relationship, you are in your 30’s you’re supposed to be in your sexual prime, not to be too graphic. But you should really not HAVE to think of “it” as a chore. It’s supposed to be fun! Not that me saying it is going to make it any better, but I feel bad for you in that respect. We all do have needs like you said and I definately feel resentful if my needs aren’t being met!Hugs to you!!!!July 12, 2007 at 8:59 am #39053AnonymousInactiveLori, for some reason I was thinking about this on the way home last night and I remembered the 5 love languages. Are you familiar with the concept at all? It is basically where everyone requires different things in order to feel loved, for some it is physical, attention, some gifts or praise or acts of service (may not have these exactly right but that is the basic concept). When I first learned about this, I was really enlightened because it dawned on me that DH and I speak different love languages, he shows he cares by helping me but I am more for the affection or praise. Maybe your DH is expressing his love in other ways (like working the long hours) and does not realize you need the affection/physical part?? I know you said that your relationship used to be passionate but I am guessing the love languages could change especially with life changing events like children.Anyway, if you want to learn more, check out this link:
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July 12, 2007 at 10:36 am #39059AnonymousInactiveThat five love languages book is terrific! I’d get it and read it with him if you can convince him to.
Anyway, I haven’t responded so far to your post because I certainly am the last person on earth who should give marital advice given the state of my marriage, but you know that much of that is out of my control and it’s a unique situation…What I wanted to say is that the consensus from all the relationship and parenting books that I’ve read is that the experts all seem to agree that it’s very important to put your marriage before your children. Your partner is your first priority. Your children are next. Sounds harsh, but it’s really wise advice. You not only improve your marriage by putting your partner first, but you make your children happier as well. The best thing you can do for your children is nurture your relatioship so that they will have happy parents. Having happy parents will help them choose and maintain happy relationships when they grow up. Your children will benefit tremendously by seeing the two of you nurturing each other.Maybe explaining that to dh will help motivate him to make some changes.Is there anyway you can get Hailey in her own bed but still in your room so dh can come back to bed with you? Maybe a little toddler bed next to your bed, or something like that.I hope things improve soon.July 12, 2007 at 11:44 am #39062AnonymousInactivehmmmmmmm. my parents have been married since 1959, have had 4 kids, and still make out in the kitchen. it is for this reason, i never thought i would get married. (ha ha ha) me — i get “goosed” in the kitchen a lot, but usually i am juggling making 2 meals and figuring out how i can get all of my work done in a day, and chatting with hannah about butterflies…and it makes me mad (the goosing). honestly, the physical part of my marriage never required effort until we had hannah, but when time passes i look at “affection” like “one more task,” which is not really the case when it comes down to it — but exhaustion often wins out over libido (in my case, not my husbands…) not being physical for awhile is like having a “big red chicken” in the room with you (sorry for the Dora reference) — its akward, but i suppose after awhile you get used to it…and it can be a little depressing.
having read everyone elses posts, i can agree what improves the situation is communication (sometimes too much) and time to oneself — that is not work related. i think we are able to stay connected because we are open with each other, good and bad, but we are both big talkers. putting your marriage ahead of the children means you will be present for your children, as it is that “loooooooooove” that brought them there.so effort. yeah. cute ideas for simple dates, etc, but when it comes down to it — the only thing to do is to go to bed. the rest of it falls into place. and you guys will remember how to talk again once that big red chicken leaves the room. can you leave hailey in your bed and join your husband? sorry for my bluntness, but its my style.July 12, 2007 at 2:29 pm #39067AnonymousInactiveWell said Christine!
Definately true! I think it (putting the marriage first) just have such a hard time doing it. When we are already married it’s physically done, it is what it is, good or bad. I guess I don’t feel like I should have to put so much physical work into it anymore… The wedding day is over, and I definately shouldn’t think of it that way!The kids, they are hard to put on the back burner b/c they require so much more of our “physical work.” But if you wait too long, and the kids are all grown up, you will have grown apart so much and lived like that for soooooo long it will really be hard to change!Wow, I think I have a lot of work to do!July 12, 2007 at 6:01 pm #39091AnonymousInactiveThank you all for the ideas. It gave me a good cry and a good laugh (Becky, you’re hilarious!!!… and what is “goosing”?…though I have a feeling it’s x-rated!)!
I certainly know what we have to do, I just don’t know how to get there. Tiffany, thanks for the book recommendation. I’ll pick it up. Kind of sounds similar to “men are from mars, women are from venus”. My problem is that I know it in theory, as does dh, but it doesn’t get translated to our personal life. The work analogy is definitely true in our case- he feels like b/c he works 12 hour days that I don’t do enough and that I’m too critical of him.Erica, I definitely think that I’ll pursue counselling on my own. I don’t know why I never thought of that before. I need someone to talk to. In terms of our sex life, yes it’s embarrassing. I don’t know how it got like this, but Becky’s big red chicken analogy is a good one. It’s always this awkward thing that’s looming there. The thing is, that dh feels like we should just not make such a big deal of it, and just do it. But I feel like we’ve been so emotionally disconnected that it’s like having sex with a stranger. It doesn’t feel right. I feel like I need to be wooed, or given some kind of affection, or indication that I’m cared for, and even that he’s attracted to me, and treated with some kind of decency. Almost like we need to start from scratch. He thinks that making such a big deal of things just makes it worse. Anyhow, I know that no one can really solve this for me. It’s just such an ugly place.Laura, thanks, I’d appreciate any links that you have.Thanks again. You guys are the best.July 12, 2007 at 9:00 pm #39100hellbenntKeymasterThe following are not from Laura- just gathered by Laura from others!The Five Love Languages” by Gary Chapman.“Sheet Music” by Kevin Leman.“His Needs, Her Needs” by Willard F. Harley, Jr.looks at the different needs of the different genders. has been referenced by others who found it very helpful and has been referenced in “Romancing your wife”Seven Principles for Making Marriage Work: A Practical Guide by John Gottman. Go into a book store/library and make sure you like the tone/feel from it though (or any book really).Chicken Soup for the Couple’s Soul”[It took a bit to track down this one/link- looks interesting] http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0142000620/ref=nosim/thebabywearer-20?dev-t=D2TS03K6RYNK3KJuly 13, 2007 at 2:47 pm #39157AnonymousInactiveWe have 2 older children who had reflux (and prob MSPI but didn’t know back then ) so I do know from past experience that things will SLOWLY get better. With Carson being good/bad weekly, I also sleep in Carson’s room most of the time. DH and I are also business partners, managing the lives of our children. Sad, but, I know this from the other 2. If we can make it until Carson can quit vomiting and actually sleeps at night , we will have **made it through the rain…..** (remember that song?)
This goes back to the post about – feeling as if we were robbed of the early years of our children’s lives – and yes we were and are. I prayed for Carson to be 2. Now I will pray for him to be 3. And, one day, ONE DAY, he will magically be great! That is how it was with our older two. Things with DH did not get better magically that day, but slowly things will be better.
I think we are smarter due to what we have been through, but it also leaves some scars on us that will never heal. Others may not see them as they are scars but we will always see/feel them. DH prob has scars also – although they are different than yours. Hang in there.July 13, 2007 at 9:54 pm #39195AnonymousInactiveOh Lori, I’m so sorry… I don’t have much to add that everyone hasn’t already said. I do agree that counseling would be good, if not for the two of you, for yourself. My relationship with DH has been strained as well. I can see that reflux issues have taken a toll on so many of our lives. The one thing we (read I) need to remember is that we CAN make choices to do something about it… it’s just not easy or pleasant to do sometimes.
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