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June 20, 2007 at 11:21 am #37346AnonymousInactive
I am a regular poster here but I logged in under a different name in case anyone that I know reads this.
I am keeping a baby a few days a week. I have noticed some things that concern me. He is VERY thin for his age. He looks about 5 months younger than what he actually is. When he is at my house, he eats the ENTIRE time. Last week when she dropped him off, he ate two 8 oz bottles in 20 minutes. Usually, I would not feed a baby this much but he would not stop crying after the first bottle and just continued to suck on the bottle when it was empty, so I made him another and he sucked it down. Anytime he comes over to my house, he is hungry and she tells me to feed him right away, which is fine, but why does he not eat at home some? He gets here around 9 in the morning and I know he doesn’t get up until 8 or after so he should have breakfast, right?
She has told me that sometimes she gives him tylenol or ibuprofen at night to make him sleep longer (this is when he isn’t teething). She said that it helps him sleep longer and she can sleep longer in the mornings. They keep him up VERY late at night (some might call it early in the morning…12-2 am), so they can sleep in the next day. He has a tv in his room and anytime he is sleeping, the tv is on to “entertain him”. (That is how she described it.)
She has told me on more than one occasion that they smoke other things than cigarettes outside while he is inside the house. To me, being on any type of drug (herbal or not) while taking care of a baby is not acceptable. Say what you may about weed, it is still considered a mood altering drug in the US.
There are so many other things that I could go on forever. I am concerned for the child. I have told her that I will no longer be able to keep him after this summer. (He is already on a daycare list for the fall.) I have to take care of my own first. I will not get in trouble with regards to neglect that she has inflicted or something like that when I have my own children to worry about. I feel so bad for the baby but I know a daycare will take care of him. My question is, should I say anything to the mom? What should I do? I am very concerned especially about his weight and constant hunger at my house. Should I do anything or am I overreacting? Opinions are welcome!
June 20, 2007 at 12:03 pm #37351AnonymousInactiveI feel for you. It must be awful to be in this predicament. I don’t know what I would do, but the thinness and constant hunger is certainly troubling. I would probably have to be in the situation to decide on whether on not to report his parents for neglect. I definielty don’t like the meds to help him sleep. Did you see that move with Julianne Moore and Morgan Freeman where she gave her son cold medicine every night so he would go to sleep faster, so she could be with her boyfriend? Then the son overdosed on cold meds because he didn’t want his mom to leave his room that night when he went to bed. It was sickening, I wish I never saw it. Sorry to get off the subject, best of luck in your decision, have you run this by your husband, or significant other?
RLM4262007-6-20 12:16:39
June 20, 2007 at 12:06 pm #37353AnonymousInactiveVery touchy subject here. Sounds like some endangerment to the childs well being. I work in the health care field and by law in my state I am required to turn in anything that looks like neglect to state officials. I’m definately not saying that’s what you have to do. Good luck!
June 20, 2007 at 12:12 pm #37354AnonymousInactiveRobin, I haven’t seen that movie, but how awful!
There are just so many things that are concerning me. I would definitely talk to her before just turning her in since she is one of my friends that I meet in the last year from our mommy group. She is a VERY confrontational person so that scares me…a loose cannon, if you will. I am very concerned for him! This is such a tough situation. I will continue to see them both after I stop babysitting him so I will know how the situation is going. It really makes me angry when I feel someone is mistreating their child.
June 20, 2007 at 12:38 pm #37355hellbenntKeymasterI am also in the social services field & I would have to call this in! & if you call social services there is no way the mother will ever know it’s you calling- so even if she confronts ou afterwards telling she KNOWS it was you, she really will not know…once the baby is in daycare might be a time to make the call?
I know you want to speak with her before hand, but then if sh’es confrontational how will it help? just thinking as I type…
you could try & have a moms night out with her & try telling her about a ‘friend’ you have – like her- or make it your cousin…yeah, not very direct but might help? tell how your friend’s baby’s liver was damaged from too much tylenol (is this true? I think it can happen?) and empathize about how hard it is to have a baby ,etc…maybe offer to hang out with her & cook some babyfood? (how old is this baby?) something to get the conversation rolling about babies and nutrition- maybe mention this site & say how many ounces of formula baby should have- like “I just found out that a baby your baby;s age can drink up to x amount of ounces of formula a day! i had no idea> did you?”
June 20, 2007 at 1:03 pm #37362AnonymousInactiveGreat advice, Laura! Thank you! 🙂
I didn’t know that if I did call, that she wouldn’t know it was me. I just assumed they would tell her. I will definitly talk it over with my dh and see. We have talked about it before but I just feel that each day is getting worse. You are right….since she is so confrontational, it most likely would just hurt the situation and not help. Plus, I would honestly be scared about how she would handle it…she seems very revengeful (is that a word?) from stories about her past that she has told me. I wouldn’t want to put my family in the middle of this…there is no telling what she would do.
Thank you all for your advice. I think I felt like I was overreacting at first but now hearing what you all have to say, I feel better about taking some action in this situation. Thank you!
June 20, 2007 at 1:06 pm #37364AnonymousInactiveIt makes it tough that she is confrontational as well, because you know she will go nuts if she feels you are criticizing or making her feel inadequate. I remembered the movie’s name, it was Freedomland, amd it was Samuel Jackson, not Morgan Freeman. Anyhow, I’m sure in the end you will do what’s best for you and the child.
June 20, 2007 at 1:15 pm #37367AnonymousInactiveI just have some questions…
Have you ever discussed weight with the mother? What does she say about this? did she tell you that the baby does not eat for her? how old is the baby? have you asked her if she gives breakfast? have you mentioned that he is skinny?
Sorry, did not understand from your post if you had done this… i mean, it must have come up in conversations in your mommy group?
I really cannot understand why anybody would medicate their child if they do not need it, but i do think that it is done more frequently that you think… same as the parenting style of keeping the baby up late… i mean, i have friends who keep their baby up until 10pm at night so that the baby wakes up at 9am everyday and tehy can go out on weekends to dinner and not be woken up too late…. and these people are great parents!!
So… i would make the call if there has been some type of conversation about the weight/eating issue in the past and you either did not get a convincing answer or one that was dubious… is the child happy otherwise? That would be another concern…
You must be in a tough position…
June 20, 2007 at 1:15 pm #37368hellbenntKeymasterthis is so hard. but if/when you call social services they might tell you that you can’t remain anonymous- this is what’s happened in our state (FL), it used to be that callers could remain anonymous- BUT that doesn’t mean that they tell the person that it’s you- it just means that the person/agency takes your name, etc so they can follow up w/ their investigation…they don’t let the person know who made the call…however she most likely will suspect you…if you know the baby’s pediatrician’s name this also will be helpful for them w/ their investigation- can find out if baby is ftt, if mother has been told to do something, etc…
they might want to come visit when you have the baby, when the mother isn’t around…if this happens, just insist on being with whoever it is & the baby because the baby is in your care afterall-so if they want to look at baby in just a diaper to see how skinny, etc, then just make sure you’re there (sounds like common sense, sorry)
just make sure that when it all hits the fan you stick your innocent face on and innocent voice and just play dumb. she can try & trick you by saying she KNOWS it’s you & she can scare you, but there is no way for her to know…you can discuss your fears when you report her- I would- I would even suggest that you’re scared for her to take out her anger on the baby (if you are)…
hellbennt2007-6-20 13:19:11
June 20, 2007 at 1:20 pm #37371AnonymousInactiveThat it is so sad and I would be deeply concerned too. What an awful predicament to be in. How old is the baby? Does he have any siblings? If so, do they seem well cared for? It definitely sounds like some major neglect is going on. Does the child interact well with the mother or does he seem frightened of her? I ask because if physical abuse is also suspected, I would call immediately. I don’t know how social services works, but could you document your concerns and send in an anonymous letter? It also seems weird to me that the mom would ‘confess’ to you that she is doing some of these things. Do you think she is crying out for help?
June 20, 2007 at 1:42 pm #37378AnonymousInactiveIs it a case that the mom can’t afford food?? Sounds stupid, but I also used to work in the public school system and a lot of the moms would send their kids to school hungry all the time!!!! The kids got a snack fairly early in the morning, but you always knew who were going to be the ones to just snarf theirs down b/c they were soooooo hungry!
Do you provide the formula/food for the child???
I think these are all great suggestions! I just know that I couldn’t let this go!
Also, don’t know if anyone mentioned this, but keep a diary or just a note of all the things that she has told you, dates too if you can remember. Also the things that you are seeing when he comes to you like the excessive eating and weight issue. You are going to get a lot futher if you have “evidence” and you will probably feel more justified in your decision if you write down all that you can remember and then look at how much “proof” there really is there!
That should also help the social workers or whoever you talk to b/c they are going to obivously ask what your concerns are, and if you’re like me, I get on the phone with someone, especially if I’m nervous and I blow it and forget a lot of what I was going to say!
Gosh, I feel for you! Hard thing if you consider yourself to be “friends”!
June 20, 2007 at 2:06 pm #37384AnonymousInactiveI forgot to mention that he is 11 months old.
She gets his formula and solid food through WIC (govt. program that helps with food for children and pregnant mothers who can not afford it) so she has no excuse there. I provide the snacks but she brings over formula and solids for him.
Thats a great idea of writing this stuff down so I can remember exactly what happened…thanks for that suggestion!
June 20, 2007 at 3:02 pm #37404AnonymousInactiveI am sorry, I missed some of your responses somehow…
I have mentioned that he is so small for his age and that while I was out with him one day, another mom mentioned that he looked 6 months old when he was 10 months old. This got me no where. She just laughed it off. I have asked if she feeds him breakfast before he comes over, and her response is “when she has time, she does”. I chalk most of it up to being lazy parents. When I began keeping him, she told me that she gives him a bottle to go to sleep. I mentioned that it might hurt his teeth and has she heard of “bottle mouth”. She got very defensive and I dropped the issue. He still goes to bed with a bottle for naps and night time to get him to sleep. She gets very defensive about most things that I mention.
Actually today, she told me that they had friends over this weekend and “smoked up” outside after Brayden went to bed. I asked her if she would like me to babysit any weekends so they can have people over and she said no thanks.
He is a very happy baby and LOVES to eat. He literally is eating constantly at my house…constantly! He has never acted scared of his mother in front of me and obviously loves her very much. I do not suspect any type of physical abuse.
I hope I answered all of your questions…so sorry I missed your responses somehow!
1mommy2007-6-20 15:2:49
June 20, 2007 at 3:03 pm #37405AnonymousInactiveOh, what a toughie!! I think Laura had a good idea of waiting to report until after the child has entered a public daycare. That way the finger may not DIRECTLY point to you!? I have had to make 2 calls to DCFS (or whatever they’re called now) in my years as a teacher and it was HARD! And I wasn’t even friends with the people! Where I live, IL, they do take your name and information but it is supposed to remain anonymous. They take your information b/c after you make a report, they do an investigation and then notify you by letter if the claim was founded or not. Good luck and please let us know how it goes!
Also, try to remember that this is all for the benefit of the CHILD and no friendship/acquaintance is worth watching a child suffer.
June 20, 2007 at 3:10 pm #37408AnonymousInactiveTiffany…sorry, I didn’t address your questions…this whole signing in as a different user is messing me up!
He is an only child. She is still in college and very young (the mother). Not that being a young mom is any excuse at all! My mom was 17 and did a great job, if I do say so myself!
Like I said, I do not suspect any physical abuse. Sometimes the mom sort of plays dumb about stuff too…its really a weird situation. She is also a compulsive liar. I have caught her in so many lies. Sorry, probably tmi about this, its just very complicated!
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