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July 31, 2008 at 9:37 pm #54864

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Ok, so I think we’re finally ready to start the process of adding foods back in.

Since I’ve taken so many out of TED (turkey, rice, sweet pot) I’m looking forward to it.

My question is:

What am I looking for when adding foods back in? Mucous in stool? Stinky gas? or just general fussiness…

I don’t completely understand the intolerance thing I guess. I know if it’s a protein intolerance it’s generally things w/ protein (milk, soy, meats, egg, etc) and this generally presents as diaper issues + grunting, etc.

But what about things like citrus or tomatoes or other things. Would there be blood/mucousy stools?

Sorry if I’m rambling I just want to make sure I do this the right way since we seem to finally have a baseline to go from.

July 31, 2008 at 10:41 pm #54866

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I don’t know I just wanted to say GOOD LUCK! I am excited for you to expand your diet!! I think the Dr Sears website has information about TED…not 100% sure though.

July 31, 2008 at 10:58 pm #54867

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Erin: I am super excited for you! I had hoped that you would get to a baseline point before you were down to just a diet of water!

I found that adding foods back in was a nerve-wracking leap of faith each and every time. Many kiddos who have had blood/mucous will often have bad diapers rather quickly in reaction to an offending food. My didn’t have that response, but his sleep was affected and he would eventually get a rash. He also needed to be held much more. The good thing (if it can be called that) is that after Evan has his first post-baseline reaction, you’ll know what his reaction will be…

My thought process about what to add back in first is (1) that you could try adding turkey, rice, and sweet potatoes back in (one at a time with maybe a week between each one). Most likely only one of those was the problem in your earlier diet. And, you know that he will react to it and then you will know what his reaction will be. Or (2) you could pick a different food entirely that you are desperately wanting to eat. You could try a different protein (pork, beef, fish, egg) rather than trying the turkey again as you might be sick of turkey by now.

Again, congratulations on reaching this giant milestone! I am SOOOO happy for you!

August 1, 2008 at 5:19 pm #54902

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Well, I had turkey sausage for dinner last night & bkfst and lunch today & by 11am Evan was having stinky stinky gas again & some mucous in his poop (it was still yellow though-not green). He had some more stinky gas & mucous around 4pm.

So, it could be a couple things…

-yesterday in recovery @ the hospital he had SUPER stinky gas so perhaps it’s from the anesthesia?! he hadn’t eaten in 5+hrs & I hadn’t eaten in 12+ hrs.

-we didn’t give him his probiotic yesterday so maybe that’s why?!

-or maybe it’s just the turkey (or a protein of any kind intolerance in general)

I’ll go back to no turkey for tonight & tomorrow & see if it stops the stinky gas & mucous. Frustrating!!!

But, it doesn’t seem to be bothering him. He hasn’t had any Prevacid since Wed night & hasn’t cried really @ all (except when he’s hungry or tired). It’s really odd.

August 1, 2008 at 11:31 pm #54925

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Erin: I’m glad that Evan finished his scopes. Hope that all went well and you get some answers.

Although it is a little late to say this, you probably will want to schedule future food trials when there are not quite so many variables. I know that is very hard to do – especially when teething becomes a factor. If going back to no turkey for a day or two reduces the stinky gas and mucous, you could always try turkey again another time when there are no mitigating factors. (Or you could just skip turkey all together…go “cold turkey”…LOL).

I am delighted that his reflux seems to be better. Delighted and baffled. Wouldn’t it be nice if these kiddos came with a special instruction manual?

August 2, 2008 at 9:42 am #54934

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I think, Erin, that the Dr. Sears website has a list of foods and suggestions for adding foods back in. If I remember correctly, they suggest adding milder foods first.. like oats, avocado, carrots, etc. You work your way up to the foods that tend to be more troublesome, leaving, of course, milk and soy for the very, very last.

Good luck with it. Like Diane said, it was always a leap of faith for us too, and it’s likely he may respond differently with different foods.. But I would guess that the main reaction will be seen in his diapers since that’s where you’ve noticed problems before. But, I also saw some sleep issues, increased refluxing (vomiting even) and some rashing.

Let us know how it goes.

August 2, 2008 at 3:01 pm #54962

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Erin,

If I were you I would just try something completely different food that you have been craving!!! 😉 Ok, so maybe not a big bowl of icecream, but something else you might like to have. I also think that is it almost impossible to fiind a time where there are no other variables (I have been trying this since McKenzie was born and there always seems to be SOMETHING else going on…lol..).so I would just pick something and go with it. Evan seems to react to things pretty quickly, so hopefully it won’t take you too long to figure out what is going on. 🙂 I am praying for ya!

August 2, 2008 at 10:50 pm #54972

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Ok, so no turkey today (or since lunch yesterday) & no stinky gas. Also, yellow diapers ALL DAY LONG! Can you believe it?

Ok, maybe you’re not as excited as I am .

So maybe tomorrow I’ll add in something new – oatmeal maybe? I don’t know. I’d really like to add in chicken or beef (so I can eat something when we go out to eat w/ friends on Tues night & also on our vacation in 1 1/2 wks) but I worry about the protein thing since chicken & beef also have a lot of protein like turkey.

Maybe I’ll add in wine b/c I really need a glass (or 3) these days. Seriously though, would wine be ok? I’ve eaten salad w/ red wine vinager & oil the past few days w/o any problems.

Another Prevacid-free day & he slept more than usual & also actually played on the floor (flat on his back) for almost an hour. This just doesn’t make sense but I’m not complaining.

August 2, 2008 at 11:20 pm #54975

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Erin,

I am super excited for you. I know how hard it is to be on such a restricted diet and now you can move forward. Yeah!!!!!!!!!!!

My question is (half serious/half sarcastic): Have you taken a picture of a yellow diaper to put on his Milestones page in his baby book???

The lack of reflux pain does actually make sense. For many kiddos, the reflux is a symptom of their food intolerances. When you get the offending proteins out, the reflux goes away. (If it was only that easy for the rest of the refluxing babies…)

I agree with Emily (b’s mom) — eat/drink something you really want! If it works…great! If it doesn’t, well…you’ll see the response and not try that food again for a while. But, you’ll have at least enjoyed a few servings of something you’ve been craving. (In my opinion, if you choose between chicken and beef, I’d try the beef first instead of chicken since he reacted to turkey.) In my case, one of the very first things I added back in was Diet Coke. Pure junk, but it did wonders for my spirits!

Congrats also on being able to add salad into your limited diet. I’m sure that those first crunchy bites of veggies tasted heavenly.

I’m very, very happy that things are getting better for you. You should adjust your Lilypie to show Evan’s new “birthday” as today – yellow poops, playing on the floor, and no reflux. LOL.

August 3, 2008 at 2:16 pm #54983

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Ok, I vote for wine! Not that my vote matters, but if I were you that would top my list. Forget food, a nice chardonnay will do. lol personally I wouldn’t do beer because of the wheat thing and also the brewers yeast. I got McKenzie’s IgG back and brewers yeast was on the list of reacting foods. It is funny, my DH always said she had a hard time sleeping everytime I had a beer, and I guess he was right. 🙂 I am excited for you. Enjoy your wine/oatmeal/filet mignon/whatever it may be.

Dianne, lol about the diet coke…that would be me too!

August 4, 2008 at 3:19 pm #55002

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I added in pork yesterday. I know I said chicken or beef, but we went to a party yesterday & they were serving pork so that made my decision for me. Anyway, I had it for lunch & dinner (they sent us home w/ leftovers).

No adverse reactions yesterday really… a bit more fussy yesterday afternoon, but I thought he was just overtired from the party.

Evan didn’t poop b/w 6pm last night & 2:30 pm today (& didn’t sleep great last night). When he finally did go it was yellow, but runny & mucousy & a bit stinky. Then, he just pooped again & although yellow, it contained more mucous.

So, I’m thinking pork is a no-go as well (in addition to turkey). Sigh.

I’ll wait a couple days & try something else. I guess it will be just salad for me @ my friend’s bday dinner tomorrow night.

Thanks for letting me share my updates .

August 4, 2008 at 3:43 pm #55005

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Erin,

Sorry to hear about the pork…do you think it is possible that they put something ON the pork that gave him the reaction? I know most likely not, but I just hate to see one protien source after another getting shot off your list. You need some type of protien to eat. Are you still not giving Evan the prevacid?

Wine girlly…I would add wine in soon! lol. Maybe at your friend’s party.

August 4, 2008 at 9:30 pm #55015

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You know, pork was my first meat addition attempt. I tried it at Christmas time, for the HAM! No go for us too.. I had to wait about a month before it seemed ok. However, he seemed ok with turkey, so at least I had that.

I guess I would just try the other meats and see how it goes. Have you tried lamb? I know it’s supposed to be easily digested. We just don’t really eat it much, so it wasn’t a big part of my diet.

Maybe you could try some beans… chickpees – hummus – YUM!

August 4, 2008 at 11:54 pm #55025

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Something I was thinking of is quinoa. I had honestly never heard of it until we were forced to go gluten free over 8 months ago, but it is an ancient grain that cooks similar to rice. It’s gluten free and is surprisingly high in protein (for a grain) and one of the few vegetarian sources of a “complete” protein, meaning it contains all of the essential amino acids. We really enjoy it. I use the Ancient Harvest brand and buy it at my local health food store. You can steam it, add some veggies, oils, seasoning – yummy, healthy and best of all my kids seem to tolerate it well! Just a thought, as I know you’ve staying away from rice for now and likely aren’t getting a lot of protein.

August 5, 2008 at 12:44 am #55026

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Pork itself could certainly be the issue, but also whatever the pork was marinated in, glazed with, seasoned with, etc., could be the problem. I am sorry that it didn’t go well, but I hope you enjoyed the yummy flavors!

If you think that soy is a problem, then I would stay away from all foods in the legume family for now. According to the Cleveland Clinic, that includes soy plus “peanut, navy beans, kidney beans, lima beans, string beans, pinto beans, chickpeas (garbanzo beans), lentils, peas, black-eyed peas, and licorice.”

Can you find out all of the ingredients for the pork recipe you ate? You could list those ingredients in your food diary so that you can cross reference them as you do future food challenges. (It could end up being that there was a specific ingredient in the glaze that was the problem, not the pork itself.)
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