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April 26, 2008 at 8:50 am #50895

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Has anyone ever heard of this? I guess they do a digial rectal exam to diagnose and fix??? Ethan has been grunting and crying so much I called our specialist this morning. And of course he says it is colic and to give him maalox to help. I am sorry but I am not going to keep shoving meds in to my kid, he is not a science project. Has anyone ever dealt with this type of colic before? He is grunting and in so much pain that it wakes him out of a dead sleep.

April 26, 2008 at 12:54 pm #50900

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Not sure about “constipative colic,” but I can definitely tell you that both my boys were HUGE grunters early on. I thought it was constipation at first because they would grunt and turn really red in the face, but when they did have a bm, it wasn’t hard. And for both of them, it turned out to be due to protein intolerances. After removing the offending proteins from my diet (breastfeeding), like milk, soy, and other, the grunting completely stopped (and also 99% of the gas). We still needed a high dose of Prevacid for the reflux, though, to fully have a happy baby each time.

I think I saw from your other post that you’re going to be experimenting with other formulas soon? Definitely ask the doc about possible protein intolerances when you mention the grunting.

April 26, 2008 at 3:34 pm #50904

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My son stopped having bowel movements on his own by about 2 mths old. When I would give him a suppository, he’d immediately go but it would always be diarrhea. Like Paula B, my son turned out to have milk protein intolerance. Once we got the offending foods out of his system, he started having regular bowel movements without problem.

He continued to wake with intestinal gas pain for many months. He’d thrash around in bed, crying in his sleep. When it got bad enough to make him start crying, I’d pick him up and work with his legs and massage his belly to until he’d “toot”, then he’d fall back asleep immediately. The ped GI said that he was actually retaining stool (perhaps due to the months of “colic constipation” damage). We were told to give him a small bit of Miralax each day. That has made a world of difference!!

Between recognizing his MSPI and changing my/his diet, giving him Zegerid for his reflux, and Miralax for his bowels…we now have a happy, healthy child!

April 26, 2008 at 6:09 pm #50910

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My daughter does that too, she is now on Neocate, but I believe the milk is still in her system as she to is gassy. She is also on Prevacid for the reflux. I found Mylicon and Maalox to do nothing for the gas. She really screams with gas and they told me it was colic too.

April 26, 2008 at 6:10 pm #50911

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My daughter does that too, she is now on Neocate, but I believe the milk is still in her system as she to is gassy. She is also on Prevacid for the reflux. I found Mylicon and Maalox to do nothing for the gas. She really screams with gas and they told me it was colic too.

Karen

April 26, 2008 at 7:24 pm #50912

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All of these doctors describing our obviously distressed children as having “colic” certainly fit Dr. Bryan Vartabedian’s description of doctors who are still using the term “colic” as a crutch instead of considering the diagnosis of reflux or MSPI.

If you haven’t already read the interview with him (http://wondertime.go.com/learning/article/interview-colic-expert.html), you would probably find it as validating as I did to see a doctor acknowledge that our LOs need medical help, not a “colic” label. His book “Colic Solved” is even more worthwhile reading! You might even be able to get it from your library. His website is http://www.colicsolved.com.

Here’s one quote from the Wondertime interview: “…in general, pediatricians…use the term (colic) very, very loosely in any number of circumstances where babies have inexplicable fussiness. In fact, many pediatricians use it as a crutch. To a certain extent, the term absolves them from any real responsibility for going further.”

Dianne2008-04-26 19:25:23

April 26, 2008 at 8:19 pm #50917

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Both of my kids did the hard-core grunting as babies. I always swore it was constipation, but like the previous poster said, I’d try a baby laxative and it would come out runny. Constipation is hard poop. My kids did not have hard poop. As it turned out, both of them grunted, strained, turned red, etc. because of intolerances. My firstborn was intolerant to milk and needed soy formula and Landen, my second, is intolerance to milk, soy and rice. He grunted on all milk based formula (including alimentum) and soy formula. He needed Neocate formula for this to stop and for him to feel better.

I saw that you are going to see a good GI doc. that is great! just beware if he tries to tell you to put your LO on a regular milk based formula. Even really really good GI’s don’t always understand intolerances. When Landen had blood in his poo from alimentum, our GI said “try pregestamil” which also has milk protein in it. I’ve found even “good” gi’s don’t always even know which formulas have milk and which ones are elemental.

Good luck!!!

April 27, 2008 at 12:25 pm #50924

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Hi thanks for the advice on the Neocate. I realized this morning that no one has it in stock, so we will not be getting it until tomorrow. Walgreens can order it…at $42 a can So we are going to try it and hope it works. Our dr we are seeing tomorrow said to give it a try. We actually went to the E.R last night because Ethan was throwing up and just so uncomfy. Of course they say its colic. GRRR how irritating. They did do a scan of his belly and everything is ok there. But they did not do anything for the reflux so we hope to get answers tomorrow. Will the Neocate help with gas ?

April 27, 2008 at 12:37 pm #50925

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this can help you get your insurance to cover the neocate:

Going to the Top: https://www.infantreflux.org/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=2607&a mp;KW=going

also, when you start the neocate, try starting slowly if your baby doesn’t seem to take to it. you can start by just adding one ounce to the bottle of whatever it is baby is currently drinking, then eventually 2 ounces, etc, until finally the entire bottle is neocate (it might take a couple of days, it might take a week…)

not sure about the gas. but, after baby is on neocate for a good 2 weeks, even 3 weeks you should see better digestion all the way around…

April 27, 2008 at 4:04 pm #50931

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Yes neocate does help with gas, my daughter is on it 2 weeks tomorrow and I see a difference. The milk proteins is almost all out as her poop is changing to the green oh so smelly neocate Good luck at the DR

April 27, 2008 at 6:06 pm #50934

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OOO thank you so much everyone for all of your support. I will say…(knock on wood) Ethan is having a much better day today. He has not had Zantac or the Reglan since, Friday so I am hoping all is getting better. He is a little fussy but not like yesterday. So there is a chance that insurance may cover the Formula, that would be GREAT!!! I tell ya the Neocate cannot taste any worse then the Almetum does….I had to try and suck on one of his bottles on day to see what he was getting. All I can say is formula taste gross.

April 27, 2008 at 6:08 pm #50935

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Also what are your thoughts about the Dr Brown bottles? I bought one but have not used it yet. We are currently using the air vent bottles. Prior to that we were on the playtex drop ins.

April 28, 2008 at 7:39 am #50939

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I love Dr. Browns I used them for my son 6 years ago when they first came out. I did not like the drop-ins, I forgot once or twice to expel the air and she collapsed the nipples. They can be a bit of a pain to clean, but well worth it
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