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February 1, 2007 at 8:16 am #23688hellbenntKeymaster
diane can you post them here for the board? or email me via the profile button at the bottom of this post? thanks!
February 1, 2007 at 11:12 am #23719AnonymousInactiveDianne,
Thanks for the link – I posted a question about it there. Also, I did cut out rice the last few days of TED and didn’t notice much difference. I’m so tired of trying to figure out what I’m eating…is it possible that it’s not anything I’m eating causing his mucousy stools and fussy behavior? I don’t want to just give up, but after being on TED for almost 3 weeks and not seeing improvement like others I’ve read about, I’m pretty discouraged.
Also, I’ve been working hard on correcting an OALD and oversupply prob and think I’ve gotten it under better control, but he still has gassy, fussy days, so I don’t see what makes a difference one day to the next.
As a sidenote: he is on the flavored Prevacid delayed oral suspension, but I can’t really blame that since he was colicky and fussy before we started that, and that was the reason we started it. I’m thinking it could make it worse maybe? We did increase the dose recently from 15mg to 30mg and another member here told me it gave her son stomach cramps at first but then he got better. Well, my son seemed to be doing better last week, but here we are again with the colicky, poor night sleep stuff again. He has been on the increased dose for over 2 weeks now, so there has been sufficient time for him to adjust to it.
I’m really stressed out and sleep deprived right now as things were going better and now for the past 3 days he’s been up almost all night and crankier during the day. I’m really wondering how much the Prevacid is helping him now. I’m wondering if it was just coincidence that he did better for a while on it, but now he is fussy again, because his fussy days do come and go. Is it normal for them to have good and bad days even while on medication? If it’s helping with the acid production, then I can assume he is fussing for a different reason. That leads me to believe he is fussing due to digestive issues, since he has also been very gassy from day 1 and always grunts/strains to have a bm even though they’re always watery. That was the reason I decided to try TED. I was SO hopeful I would find out what was bothering him, but no such luck…
Any insights?
Thanks!
February 1, 2007 at 12:04 pm #23727hellbenntKeymasterhmmm…ok I’d do no rice for 2 weeks and then I’m not sure what I’d do? what exactly are you eating? maybe next you can try no wheat?
so add back the rice (after 2 weeks of no rice, since you didnt see any difference) and then take away wheat? give that 2 weeks?
those are the ‘biggies’ – milk, soy, rice, wheat…
so after that try adding things back and see what happens?
to add the rice back in, maybe try the way from the link ‘how to add foods back in’ or soemthing like that from the ‘main’ mspi page?
February 1, 2007 at 12:19 pm #23730AnonymousInactiveLaura,
I didn’t actually give the rice 2 weeks. I was on TED for almost 3 weeks and the last few days eliminated rice to see if it was possibly the reason I wasn’t seeing improvement with TED. The ONLY foods I was eating for the last 3-4 days of the diet were turkey, sweet potatoes, zucchini, squash, pears. He still had fussy days/nights even then. Is it possible I didn’t give the diet enough time? How long does it take??? 2 days ago when I got fed up with it I went off it cold turkey and added back my normal diet (including wheat, meats, rice, etc.). He has been sleepless and colicky for 2 days now…so, he didn’t improve much on TED but seems worse now that I’m off. What does that mean? I suppose I should go back on TED since he wasn’t this bad while I was on it. I don’t know anymore! I’m tired of all of it
Sorry to sound negative – I just want to figure out how to help him. Maybe there isn’t a simple solution????
February 1, 2007 at 12:37 pm #23735hellbenntKeymasterum…I’d go back & stick with it…the diet should take the 3 weeks that you did- but to get the rice ‘out’ I would say to give that 2weeks (at least a week)…the stuff you added might have made things worse since you said things were a little better on the diet?
so go back, eat just free range turkey & lamb, potatoes, sweet potatoes & squash (maybe even go wild & eat different squashes- acorn squash, butternut squash, spaghetti squash, etc? the diet called for yellow squash…but you’ve been eating zuccini so why not add more squash?) for about a week and see where you are…if no improvement, then add rice back in and then see what happens. if nothing, then add wheat back in & see what happens…then after that, call it a day? quit? I’d also post on the yahoogroup as well…yikes
February 1, 2007 at 12:51 pm #23739AnonymousInactiveLaura,
I thought zucchini was also listed as ok…I guess I need to go back and review what’s acceptable carefully. Also, I wasn’t eating free-range turkey – just regular ole’ turkey…could that make a big difference? I will ask my husband to pick up some free range turkey this time and stick with yellow squash only to see if that makes a difference.
Thanks
February 1, 2007 at 1:13 pm #23742hellbenntKeymasterI don’t know- but there could be additives in the turkey- otherwise why would they be specific? I really don’t know…there are all kinds of things in deli-meat, too, so if you were eating that then who knows?
http://www.askdrsears.com/html/4/t041200.asp
- Eat only range-fed turkey and lamb, baked or boiled potatoes and sweet potatoes (with salt and pepper only), rice and millet as your only grain, cooked green and yellow squash for your vegetable, and for fruit, pears and diluted pear juice. Drink a rice-based beverage drink in place of milk on cereal or in cooking. Do not yet use soy beverage. Take a calcium supplement. (Rice products, such as rice beverage, rice-based frozen dessert, rice pasta, rice flour, and millet are available in nutrition stores.)
- At the end of two weeks, or sooner if the colic subsides, gradually add other foods to your diet, one every four days, starting with those less commonly allergenic (such as sunflower seeds, carrots, beets, salmon, oats, grapes, avocado, peaches). Wait a while before you add wheat, beef, eggs, nuts, and corn. Avoid for the longest time dairy products, soy products, peanuts, shellfish, coffee, tea, colas and other beverages containing caffeine, chocolate, gas-producing vegetables (broccoli, cauliflower, cabbage, onions, green peppers), tomatoes, and citrus fruits. Vegetables and fruits are often tolerated in cooked form sooner than in raw form.
- Keep a record of the foods you eat and the problem behaviors; try to correlate baby’s fussy spells with what you’ve eaten in the past day or so. This gives you a clearer perspective and helps you stay objective, which is hard to do when you are sleep-deprived. This is especially important when baby has stayed fussy past four months of age.
Do not starve yourself. It may feel, the first day or two, as though there is not enough for you to eat; but you can still eat a nutritious diet. You just have to eat more of the “safe” types of food until you determine what your baby can tolerate.
Colicky babies usually respond to mother’s diet changes dramatically and quickly, often within one or two days. With the older baby who is nightwaking, you may have to wait longer to see results. Typically, mothers will find that when they change their diet baby may sleep better for a few nights only to start waking again a lot for a few days or a week or so, at which time the sleep again improves. It’s important to know this so that you will not be tempted to give up when you think “it’s not working.”
Older babies are often less sensitive to fruits and vegetables in mom’s diet (and their own), so at this stage we recommend mainly protein elimination, namely dairy, beef, eggs, chicken, shellfish, soy, corn, wheat, and peanuts (plus any other foods you have learned bother baby). Research has shown that some foreign proteins get into some mothers’ milk more than others’, and of course some babies are more sensitive to these proteins than other babies.
February 2, 2007 at 4:57 am #23819AnonymousInactiveEmily, I just wanted to say how much I admire you. Things sound so hard for you and you are just so focussed on making your little one comfortable. What a fabulous mum you are
Goodluck with the diet.
February 3, 2007 at 4:09 pm #23999AnonymousInactiveHey Emily,
I’m also on the TED and not seeing a big change in the poop issue. Ben also always has a red anus, and I haven’t been able to tie it to any food in particular. Let me know if you figure out anything.
February 3, 2007 at 4:14 pm #24001AnonymousInactiveI also meant to write that I also have OALD as well, and am constantly struggling with oversupply. Right now we aren’t doing well because he has RSV and isn’t eating as much, but all that you have posted here sounds so familiar to our situation. I never tried cutting out the rice, but if you do end up doing that and it works, please, please let me know!!!!
- Eat only range-fed turkey and lamb, baked or boiled potatoes and sweet potatoes (with salt and pepper only), rice and millet as your only grain, cooked green and yellow squash for your vegetable, and for fruit, pears and diluted pear juice. Drink a rice-based beverage drink in place of milk on cereal or in cooking. Do not yet use soy beverage. Take a calcium supplement. (Rice products, such as rice beverage, rice-based frozen dessert, rice pasta, rice flour, and millet are available in nutrition stores.)
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