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October 30, 2006 at 12:56 pm #16815AnonymousInactive
We took Lucy for her 2mth visit to her ped doc. The ped doc we loved just retired and this is who took over. So far, haven’t been impressed, but I’m fair. I’ll give this a chance.
So today, I’m saying how Lucy’s reflux is horrible. I really didn’t expect her to help since it’s not her area of expertise. We have an appt with the gi specialist Nov 30. So, I’m answering her questions and tell her that Lucy’s starting to choke sometimes on the silent reflux. I’ve been through this before so it’s not alarming to me. I didn’t make a big deal out of anything with the reflux.
She procedes to advise me that if I put her on Isomil formula that this would be better. I had told her I was exclusively nursing a few minutes before that and thought maybe she forgot. So I said, “Oh, she’s breast fed” The doc suggested anyway to formula feed to help control the reflux. And said that avoiding dairy in the formulas was the way to go.
This was where I did the double take!!! Did she even ask me if I’m eliminating dairy??? No, just right into suggesting to stop bfing and formula feed.
Did I miss the release of information that formula is better for reflux? Is there anything better than breastmilk? Then why am I putting myself through all this???
It’s been difficult to stay on the elimination diet and I haven’t been that good at it this last couple weeks. -Here goes my self inflicted guilt trip… I just have to be more adamant at the diet.
This post is turning into a vent because I’m sooo furious. Sorry for that, but it’s hard to stay calm when the docs are supposed to help.
Henry’s first doc talked me into formula feeding and that was the worst thing for Henry. It may work for other kids, but not in his case. Lucy’s reflux is soooo much better than Henry’s. So I know the bfing is working for her. I just don’t want anymore docs trying to talk me out of nursing.
Will all the docs try to do this?
October 30, 2006 at 1:11 pm #16818AnonymousInactiveI’m sorry – I know how frustrating that is. I think it really just depends on the doctor. Some encourage breastfeeding, others encourage formula, and there are still others who just support whatever the parent decides is best for them. I think you just need to take what anyone says – doctors included – with a grain of salt. Also, you might want to consider finding another doctor – one who has similar opinions as you. I mean this is someone you’re going to have to deal with for the rest of your kids childhood. You know? You know what’s best for Lucy. The doc sees her for 15 minutes here and there. You’re with her every day.
October 30, 2006 at 1:25 pm #16820AnonymousInactiveAMY-
I’m furious for you!!!
I failed miserably trying to bf my ds… to the point that I didn’t even bother trying with Anika – – talk about guilt trip but at the same time, I know it was the right choice for our family as a whole so I try not to dwell. I say any Mother that can sucessfully bf already needs to be put on a pedastal… and any Mother who can sucessfuly bf a reflux baby is a saint! And you are a saint for continuing it with the elimination diet and all!
I could see how bottle feeding could possibly be easier because of the ability to thicken it with cereal or to put a probiotic in it but I don’t think that anyone could argue that the breastmilk isn’t best.
How much did Lucy weigh at her 2 month visit? My Anika is about a month older and she was 10 lbs 4 oz a week ago. We were able to get 7.5 mg of Prevacid 3 times a day out of our doctor but I’m just now (today) learing about using the Pepcid. How are you getting it in liquid? Also, what is periactin? Sounds like you could use a higher dose of Prevacid.
October 30, 2006 at 2:07 pm #16827AnonymousInactiveI’d be pretty ticked off, too. She didn’t even bother to ask if you knew about or were trying the elimination diet? And since when is soy formula the solution to reflux?
Did you tell her that you plan to continue breast feeding despite her advice? If so, how did she respond? If you didn’t tell her, I’d call her, or talk to her about it at Lucy’s next visit, tell her you wish to or are continuing to breast feed and ask for her advice or suggestions. This is a way to feel her out and see if she’s really that lousy of a doctor or was she having an off day. I love my children’s doctor but if she had been the way she was at Myles’ last check-up from the beginning, I would have found someone else. I’ve known her for years now, so I think it was just a bad day for her, so I can let it go and still trust her.
If you don’t think you’ll be able to trust or respect her, I’d definitely think about looking for another doctor. I need to have someone I can talk to and someone who listens and considers my mother’s intuition and views. I’ve changed doctors more than once for my children because like Heather said you’re going to have to deal with this person for a long time….
October 30, 2006 at 3:45 pm #16840hellbenntKeymasterdon’t get me started!!!
there are times for formula, but only if/when the mother feels she has exhausted all other routes (ex:testing, ie: endoscopy & biopsies showing eos cells & swallow study that shows aspiration-& in that case a mother could use simply thick & continue to express breast milk-, persistant blood in stools despite dietary changes, etc) &/or she wants to switch!
October 30, 2006 at 4:53 pm #16853AnonymousInactiveAmy,
I am with you in the soup sister! On the elimination diet and nursing now for 7 months-armwrestling and locked up in my house A LOT!!!
I haven’t been to a pedi GI with this baby at all because while nursing my last one, the pedi GI talked me into the formula fix after 10 mos of hard work nursing my baby! I think it’s easier for them in terms of “watching” the patient if they are getting something as simple as formula. Nursing is complex and if you’re like me, you try hard to avoid but sometimes labels aren’t true and things happen. Basically, docs can be lazy and they think we’re lazy about our elim diets too.
I had stopped nursing my younger baby when he showed early signs of allergy (seedy green poops) but after the formula that one week wasn’t fun…got myself some reglan and got back onto it just a week! Taking reglan now to boost the supply does help a lot too with the on and off the breast behavior-helps me keep my supply up…and the baby only gets tiny amounts…
I guess I’ve gotten cynical. I’d rather try to coax my pediatrician into trying some med solutions (like prevacid) with me than to go to the GI who seems to railroad something as special as nursing. What the *&%$%Y do they know anyway! (PS. A big apology to the good GI’s present few though they are..)
NOT to highjack, but check out my allergy articles under MSPI-very interesting stuff I got from rooting around Cook’s Medical site to Immune Intolerance issues…hmmmmmm….maybe an elim diet isn’t the only option!
October 30, 2006 at 11:33 pm #16886AnonymousInactiveThanks all.
Oh, how I wish we could switch docs. I only have one other one in town and he’ll be retiring soon. We don’t have much choice. I’ll try to stick it out and if it gets really bad, I’ll look out of town.
I didn’t have any “fight” in me today, so I don’t think I said much after the formula suggestion. I was just so shocked. At least ask me if I’m trying to eliminate. That’s all I ask. I’m sure if it comes to it, I’ll talk to her about it. I’m kinda trying not to talk to her about it, cuz I know she doesn’t know about reflux. Or at least we don’t agree on it for many reasons. I’ll just deal with the gi specialist. I’m really determined to stick with bfing. So if any other doc tries to talk me out of it, it won’t happen. My guns are loaded now. I see a huge improvement from Henry’s reflux to Lucy’s. It could be that she’s just a different kid, but it could be the bfing. I’m not planning on “experimenting” to find out!!
Jamesons mom… I’ll have to pm you when I get time. have lots to say about your post. and after I’ve looked at the articles. time to get chained to the couch nursing again…I don’t know weather to laugh or cry so I’ll put both
October 31, 2006 at 9:36 am #16898AnonymousInactiveHow ignorant. How could doctors be so outdated that they don’t know the research on breastfeeding. That being said, I certainly understand the challenges of nursing, especially a GERDling with feeding problems, and in my opinion, the choice to breastfeed is always a mother’s, and needs to be supported- but it’s a great thing and should rarely be discouraged. Especially with what we know now about nursing.
As for your ped, if you can’t find a new doc and you’re stuck with this one, then maybe you need to help them brush up on their knowledge… the next time you see your doc, you can come armed with some reading materials!
Jamesonmom, I feel so bad that you are afraid to go to a GI because they pressure you to stop nursing. If that’s the case, then you just haven’t found the right GI. Don’t give up. There are good docs out there.
Here’s a link from the laleche league on breastfeeding a baby with GER:
http://www.lalecheleague.org/NB/NBNovDec98p175.html
(((HUGS)))
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